Building bocks, Chemicals and Life

[Subduction Zone]

They could be billions of years ahead of us and you think they can, colonize other planets?

I knew this living on mars dream was a waste of time

What makes you think that is possible? There may be some technical problems that cannot be overcome. I used to love my science fiction, but when one looks into the problems of interstellar space travel they may be, I am not saying that the definitely are not, but they may be insurmountable.

 

[We Never Know]

What makes you think that is possible? There may be some technical problems that cannot be overcome. I used to love my science fiction, but when one looks into the problems of interstellar space travel they may be, I am not saying that the definitely are not, but they may be insurmountable.

Are you saying this living on Mars thing is a waste of time and money?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Yep. They want "evidence from you" but they want you to take their word. Its a scam lol

No, you just don't understand the concept of evidence. And that was a particularly ignorant post since being or not being an atheist had nothing to do with my claims.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Are you saying this living on Mars thing is a waste of time and money?

No. And where did you get that idea from? I said nothing about Mars. I neither pushed for it or opposed it.

When you make posts like this it tells everyone how little you know about the subject that you raised. We were discussing interstellar travel at best.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Nothing proves it,
As atheists say nothing proves God's existence.

In the sciences one can only use evidence. And why even bring God into the conversation? This has nothing to do with atheism at all.

 

[We Never Know]

No. And where did you get that idea from? I said nothing about Mars. I neither pushed for it or opposed it.

When you make posts like this it tells everyone how little you know about the subject that you raised. We were discussing interstellar travel at best.

What!!! We were talking about other life. Some which could be billions of years ahead of us and you said, and I quote.....

They would more than likely just be on the planets that they evolved on.

 

[We Never Know]

In the sciences one can only use evidence. And why even bring God into the conversation? This has nothing to do with atheism at all.

Why bring up science evidence when asking for evidence about a god. Science has nothing to do with a god at all.

 

[We Never Know]

No, you just don't understand the concept of evidence. And that was a particularly ignorant post since being or not being an atheist had nothing to do with my claims.

Oh! So now you are saying I am making "ignorant" posts? Geez here goes the personal attacks as usual

 

[Subduction Zone]

What!!! We were talking about other life. Some which could be billions of years ahead of us and you said, and I quote.....

Wow! Another "So what?" post. You did not answer my question. Why would you refer to Mars? It is rather obvious that the sort of advanced life that the Fermi paradox is about does not exist on Mars.

You screwed up. Just admit it and move on.

 

[Brian2]

Being life is(said to be) a chemical reaction, and the building blocks of life are throughout the universe(I say throughout because they have been found in meteors, etc. so we know they don't only exist here), doesn't it stand to reason other life should exist (or should have existed) throughout the universe being there are billions of other galaxies with solar systems with planets in a "goldie locks zone" billions of years older than earth?

The hypothesis is that it takes only chemicals in the right environment to produce life but still people say that it is inevitable that there is life out there.
Sounds like a proclamation of faith.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Oh! So now you are saying I am making "ignorant" posts? Geez here goes the personal attacks as usual

That is not a personal attack. That is an observation. Your posts tell us that you do not understand this concept.

You could always fix this by trying to learn. But for some reason you seem to refuse to do that.

No one has said or even implied that you are not bright enough to learn, but when you write a post criticizing others and the posts shows how little you know you should not complain about being corrected.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The hypothesis is that it takes only chemicals in the right environment to produce life but still people say that it is inevitable that there is life out there.
Sounds like a proclamation of faith.

How so? That is what appears to have happened here. That it could only happen here in spite of the evidence that very similar conditions would exist elsewhere would be a statement of faith. That life could have arisen elsewhere is a conclusion based upon the available evidence.

 

[We Never Know]

Wow! Another "So what?" post. You did not answer my question. Why would you refer to Mars? It is rather obvious that the sort of advanced life that the Fermi paradox is about does not exist on Mars.

You screwed up. Just admit it and move on.

Dude!! You are the only one using "so what" replies.

Do we not have plans and are spending money on how to colonize mars?

 

[Heyo]

Being life is(said to be) a chemical reaction, and the building blocks of life are throughout the universe(I say throughout because they have been found in meteors, etc. so we know they don't only exist here), doesn't it stand to reason other life should exist (or should have existed) throughout the universe being there are billions of other galaxies with solar systems with planets in a "goldie locks zone" billions of years older than earth?

We don't know the exact circumstances needed for life to form. We just could have been very lucky. There seems to be no other life in our system and there is no sign of advanced (Kardashev II) civilisations as far as we have looked (which isn't very far).
We are only just able, thanks to JWST, to analyse alien planet atmospheres which could give us a hint at primitive life. No hits yet.
So, I stay agnostic and watch Dr. Becky.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Dude!! You are the only one using "so what" replies.

Do we not have plans and are spending money on how to colonize mars?

Nope. That would be you. You do not even know what a "So what?" argument is.

A "So what?" argument is usually the weakest form of an argument from ignorance. Even if the argument is true it does not make a bit of difference. It is an argument so poor that it is refuted by a simple "So what?"

 

[We Never Know]

That is not a personal attack. That is an observation. Your posts tell us that you do not understand this concept.

You could always fix this by trying to learn. But for some reason you seem to refuse to do that.

No one has said or even implied that you are not bright enough to learn, but when you write a post criticizing others and the posts shows how little you know you should not complain about being corrected.

Ok. Then so far every post you have made is ignorant. There! That's settled. Moving on now to more important posts.

 

[We Never Know]

Nope. That would be you. You do not even know what a "So what?" argument is.

A "So what?" argument is usually the weakest form of an argument from ignorance. Even if the argument is true it does not make a bit of difference. It is an argument so poor that it is refuted by a simple "So what?"

"You do not even know what a "So what?" argument is."

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[Subduction Zone]

We don't know the exact circumstances needed for life to form. We just could have been very lucky. There seems to be no other life in our system and there is no sign of advanced (Kardashev II) civilisations as far as we have looked (which isn't very far).
We are only just able, thanks to JWST, to analyse alien planet atmospheres which could give us a hint at primitive life. No hits yet.
So, I stay agnostic and watch Dr. Becky.

I would say that taking our one planet as a data point, I know not much to extrapolate one. we will find the intelligent life that was able to even make a peep outside of your Solar System has existed for only about 100 years. Before then we gave no sign of our existence. And that is over a 4.55 billion year history of the planet. I would say that intelligent life is probably very very rare from our one experience.

And there there is the problem of communicating with our neighbors. If we do not know that any exist how would we do so? Radio waves would be swamped by Sunlight in not that long of a distance. It would take some amazing technology to separate out a radio signal from all of the background noise if one is talking something on the order of 100 million light years of distance.

And interstellar travel is rife with problems. Perhaps an independent colony might survive a journey, but it appears that faster than light travel may be pure science fiction. If FTL travel is impossible then interstellar travel may be off the table too.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Ok. Then so far every post you have made is ignorant. There! That's settled. Moving on now to more important posts.

No, sorry. It does not work that way. Now you could have asked how you were ignorant in a post. But if you want to claim that someone's ignorance is causing them to give bad answers the burden of proof would be upon you.

Why didn't you ask how you demonstrated your ignorance?

 

[We Never Know]

We don't know the exact circumstances needed for life to form. We just could have been very lucky. There seems to be no other life in our system and there is no sign of advanced (Kardashev II) civilisations as far as we have looked (which isn't very far).
We are only just able, thanks to JWST, to analyse alien planet atmospheres which could give us a hint at primitive life. No hits yet.
So, I stay agnostic and watch Dr. Becky.

JWST is already changing several things. Hopefully great things are to come.