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Bully

Curious George

Veteran Member
Well if someone’s gonna talk about the trauma they were caused I think they should recognize that the person Who did the bullying was young and talk about that as well. Oh well you don’t see it that way. I guess we see it differently.
That is another strange assumption.

It does not follow that, because the person omits discussion of the initiators age when talking about the trauma that they experienced, the person then doesn’t recognize or acknowledge how age and development played a role in the problematic behavior.

It seems what we have here is a couple assumptions in your logic that may or may not be true in various instances.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
That is another strange assumption.

It does not follow that, because the person omits discussion of the initiators age when talking about the trauma that they experienced, the person then doesn’t recognize or acknowledge how age and development played a role in the problematic behavior.
Why do you think all people that are bullied refuse to recognize age and development? It seems that when a person speaks about “the trauma caused by bullies” they are focused on impact of a problematic behavior. I think that is a separate conversation than discussing other facets of the problematic behavior. It seems strange that you would make a conclusion based on the omission of age and development of the initiators during exploration of a specific facet of problematic behaviors, when I am not sure that age and development of the initiators is relevant to that facet of the behaviors.
Well other people read the stuff people post about bullies and I don’t think All bully’s should be painted in a horrific manner. Yeah if you’re talking having a personal conversation with somebody close you don’t have to bring it up. Of course not
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
A grey hole with pink polka dots hahaha

You can color it however you want since it is your very own black hole, I mean grey with pink polka dots, after all. I am going to trust you on this, no need for pics.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
You can color it however you want since it is your very own black hole, I mean grey with pink polka dots, after all. I am going to trust you on this, no need for pics.
Thanks for your approval. Hahahaha. You shouldn’t think people unstable when u know nothing about them
 

Curious George

Veteran Member
Well other people read the stuff and I don’t think I’ll bully should be painted in a horrific manner. Yeah if you’re talking having a personal conversation with somebody close you don’t have to bring it up course not

Well other people read the stuff people post about bullies and I don’t think All bully’s should be painted in a horrific manner. Yeah if you’re talking having a personal conversation with somebody close you don’t have to bring it up. Of course not

I agree that kids who engage in problematic behavior should not be painted in a horrific manner. I think even the word bully Carrie’s with it a very negative label.

But, if you share that I peed in your orange juice when you were a kid, everyone laughed at you, and you still have anxiety related to this traumatic event, then it does not follow that you a) do not recognize how my own age and development was a variable in the behavior, and b) have not let it go.

The consequences of the experience can linger long after you have forgiven, or let something go. Further, you could understand perfectly well that the behavior I exhibited then was not communicative of my character now, or even a comprehensive example of my behavior or character then.

When a person speaks about the trauma they have experienced and the consequences, we cannot, without more, assume an entirely separate narrative on a separate discussion based on the shared element of the problematic behavior, for those two discussions .
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
I agree that kids who engage in problematic behavior should not be painted in a horrific manner. I think even the word bully Carrie’s with it a very negative label.

But, if you share that I peed in your orange juice when you were a kid, everyone laughed at you, and you still have anxiety related to this traumatic event, then it does not follow that you a) do not recognize how my own age and development was a variable in the behavior, and b) have not let it go.

The consequences of the experience can linger long after you have forgiven, or let something go. Further, you could understand perfectly well that the behavior I exhibited then was not communicative of my character now, or even a comprehensive example of my behavior or character then.

When a person speaks about the trauma they have experienced and the consequences, we cannot, without more, assume an entirely separate narrative on a separate discussion based on the shared element of the problematic behavior, for those two discussions .
You missed the whole point. I don’t know what to tell you
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
I agree that kids who engage in problematic behavior should not be painted in a horrific manner. I think even the word bully Carrie’s with it a very negative label.

But, if you share that I peed in your orange juice when you were a kid, everyone laughed at you, and you still have anxiety related to this traumatic event, then it does not follow that you a) do not recognize how my own age and development was a variable in the behavior, and b) have not let it go.

The consequences of the experience can linger long after you have forgiven, or let something go. Further, you could understand perfectly well that the behavior I exhibited then was not communicative of my character now, or even a comprehensive example of my behavior or character then.

When a person speaks about the trauma they have experienced and the consequences, we cannot, without more, assume an entirely separate narrative on a separate discussion based on the shared element of the problematic behavior, for those two discussions .
I guess people will just continue to go on forums and self-help websites and discuss the trauma that was caused by bullies and speak of nothing of that it was a child that did it to them oh well I guess I can’t change the world
 

Curious George

Veteran Member
You missed the whole point. I don’t know what to tell you
It would seem so. It appears you are suggesting that because people don’t talk about Y when they are discussing X, they do not think Y is relevant to topic Z. If that is not your point, you failed to convey your point well. I don’t know what to tell you.
 

Curious George

Veteran Member
I guess people will just continue to go on forums and self-help websites and discuss the trauma that was caused by bullies and speak of nothing of that it was a child that did it to them oh well I guess I can’t change the world
While recognizing the age of the initiators can certainly be helpful in understanding and resolving the trauma, it simply isn’t germane to a discussion about how an individual was impacted. If that is what they are discussing, then yeah, you will likely continue to see the discussion with the omission. If however they are trying to blame the initiators or paint them in a “horrific manner” then I agree that they should speak about things that are relevant to the imitators; and age and development are among things relevant to them.
 

Hermit Philosopher

Selflessly here for you
When people talk about getting bullied they never talk about how the bully is young. Young people make mistakes. I think people need to realize that. I bet you 99.9% of bullies regret what they have done and have become great people.
I am no longer a bully but I was one as a child. Where I grew up, you either gave it or you took it - it was an awful environment for everyone.

I know those who don’t recognise that they were bullies when they were young and they don’t realise that they are bullies today. I also know those who were not bullies as children but are bullies now.

I’d say that, beside individuals and personal issues, there are certain structures that often result in a bullying environment. I am strongly opposed to those.

Humbly,
Hermit
 
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