Burden of Proof is on Atheists

[Sheldon]

I am mathematically extremely talented:
Evaluation of the Gauss integral

I am the geniuses of all geniuses, and my maths trumps yours. Since you find unevidenced BS to be a compelling argument.

Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!

 

[Sheldon]

questfortruth said: ↑
The modern atheists have no such brain-power as the Emmanuel Kant had. He has debunked all 5 ways of Thomas. But some researches still disagree with this debunkment. Hence, the modern atheists cannot give something new in addition to Kant achievement.

Genuinely baffled as to what you are trying to say there.

You're definitely not alone.

 

[Sheldon]

Look up the section "endorsement" in the rules, please.

It is impossible to get endorsement.

 

[Sheldon]

Then they cannot use term Jesus Christ. It comes together with definition. Its definition: God.

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It appears I can....

 

[Spirit of Light]

Then they cannot use term Jesus Christ. It comes together with definition. Its definition: God.

Jesus is a name. Christ is a title.

Anyone can say Jesus Christ. Anyone can say their understanding about Jesus, even they dont believe him to be real.

Or do you want everyone to think exactly as you do?

 

[questfortruth]

Jesus is a name. Christ is a title.

Anyone can say Jesus Christ. Anyone can say their understanding about Jesus, even they dont believe him to be real.

Or do you want everyone to think exactly as you do?

First name: Jesus. Last name: Christ.

But Jesus Christ comes from Bible. If you put Bible in doubt, about calling Jesus God, then you put Bible in doubt. Hence, you cannot use word Jesus Christ, because its source is doubtful.

 

[Valjean]

Then they cannot use term Jesus Christ. It comes together with definition. Its definition: God.

This may come as a surprise, but there are people in the world that believe in a god or gods, yet don't believe in Jesus.

 

[leroy]

These assertions are poorly evidenced. 1 and 2 are hearsay. 3 is reported differently in different gospels. 4: People interpret things as supernatural events all the time. In this case we have an interpretation of hearsay, passed around as gossip for who knows how long, embellished, edited, and eventually written down. Do you seriously find "a high degree of certainty" in such evidence? 5: Who were Paul and James, and what do we really know about them?

Well most scholars accept these facts ,so in your opinion what are they missing? What information do you have that you think scholars are missing?


Which of these facts do you fibd less likely to be true (so that I can support it)?

Who were Paul and James, and what do we really know about them?

We know tons of stuff about them.....but the relevant things are

1 they where non Christians (on their view jesus was a blasfemist )

2 they had an experience / they saw something that they interpreted as having seen the risen jesus

3 the became followers of christ to the point that they where persecute6and willing to die for jesus.


What does this proves?

Imagine that someone like Richard Dawkins witnesses something that he interpreted as a miracle and becomes a Christian/ as a consequence he losses his job, his followers, people stop buying his books, etc.

Wouldn't that strongly suggest that he witnesses a real miracle? A vague experience or something that could have been explained by hallucinations, or other natural phenomena would have not convince someone lik Dawkins. .....At the very least this will prove that something really strage and extraordinary happened.


Paul and janes (specifically Paul) where like Dawkins "strong non believers" so the experience that they had was something big and extraordinary.... (it had to be something good enough to change their minds) .... so if it wasn't a true miracles what other alternavive do you suggest?

 

[We Never Know]

I say again... The burden of proof lies with the one(s) making the/a claim,, PERIOD!

 

[questfortruth]

This may come as a surprise, but there are people in the world that believe in a god or gods, yet don't believe in Jesus.

One cannot use any term without its definition. They do not use the term.

 

[questfortruth]

I say again... The burden of proof lies with the one(s) making the/a claim,, PERIOD!

Atheists are making bold claim.

 

[We Never Know]

Atheists are making bold claim.

I don't care if a person is atheist, christian, pagen, or a puppet. If they make a claim, support it with evidence(burden of proof).

 

[questfortruth]

I don't care if a person is atheist, christian, pagen, or a puppet. If they make a claim, support it with evidence(burden of proof).

But Prof. Riemann has made the huge claim: all zeroes of zeta-function belong to the critical line.

He has never demonstrated that.

 

[We Never Know]

But Prof. Riemann has made the huge claim: all zeroes of zeta-function belong to the critical line.

He has never demonstrated that.

"all zeroes of zeta-function belong to the critical line"

To be honest I have no clue about that or what it means. Explain if you would.

 

[questfortruth]

"all zeroes of zeta-function belong to the critical line"

To be honest I have no clue about that or what it means. Explain if you would.

But Prof. Riemann has made the huge claim: "Riemann Hypothesis is true".

He has never demonstrated that.

 

[Spirit of Light]

First name: Jesus. Last name: Christ.

But Jesus Christ comes from Bible. If you put Bible in doubt, about calling Jesus God, then you put Bible in doubt. Hence, you cannot use word Jesus Christ, because its source is doubtful.

So why do all people use that name when speaking of that man?

And who are you to say what others can and can not say?

 

[Spirit of Light]

One cannot use any term without its definition. They do not use the term.

Says who?

 

[Spirit of Light]

But Prof. Riemann has made the huge claim: "Riemann Hypothesis is true".

He has never demonstrated that.

So does it make Jesus real or not?

 

[questfortruth]

why do all people use that name when speaking of that man?

"Forgive them, Father, for they do not know what they are saying." (Bible).

 

[Spirit of Light]

"Forgive them, Father, for they do not know what they are saying." (Bible).

So since I am not a Christian you forbidd me to say Jesus Christ?