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SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Most of the people who died during the last several years were old and unhealthy.
And? Should we care less or something?
Ordinary flu often kills the sick and old as well.
And yet we have flu shots to help protect such people.
Covid "vaccine" does not prevent one from getting covid. My neighbor got multiple covid vaccines and got multiple cases of covid.
I just addressed this in the very post you were responding to. You addressed none of it and just repeated yourself.
 

jimb

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
And? Should we care less or something?

And yet we have flu shots to help protect such people.

I just addressed this in the very post you were responding to. You addressed none of it and just repeated yourself.

I have put 2ndpillar on "ignore" as there is no point in reading his posts. I recommend that you do the same.
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
And? Should we care less or something?
Old sick people are going to die. It is not a lifelong of smoking or a drinking problem that they died of, it is covid. It is not that 40% of U.S. Americans are obese, that was the base cause of their death, it was some Chinese lab virus. If you think the pharmaceutical companies along with the CDC is going to heal you, then you are truly a man of faith. Obesity Statistics And Facts In 2024
Care all you want, people reap what they sow. I am waiting for you to buy your first EV. They are now on fire sale. A Ford lightning EV truck 6 months ago that sold for $95,000, now sells for $40,000. No body wants them for a good reason. And that is why Ford and GM are trying to get out of the EV business. The peanut gallery is running out of buyers. But the Marxist Progressives still have their faiths and hopes.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Old sick people are going to die. It is not a lifelong of smoking or a drinking problem that they died of, it is covid. It is not that 40% of U.S. Americans are obese, that was the base cause of their death, it was some Chinese lab virus. If you think the pharmaceutical companies along with the CDC is going to heal you, then you are
truly a man of faith. Obesity Statistics And Facts In 2024
Care all you want, people reap what they sow
And you call yourself a Christian? Yikes.
I reject your callous attitude toward your fellow humans.
. I am waiting for you to buy your first EV. They are now on fire sale. A Ford lightning EV truck 6 months ago that sold for $95,000, now sells for $40,000. No body wants them for a good reason. And that is why Ford and GM are trying to get out of the EV business. The peanut gallery is running out of buyers. But the Marxist Progressives still have their faiths and hopes.
Sure thing. Let me know when you pull yourself out of that YouTube rabbit hole of inanity that you seem to have fallen into.

I'm going to take another poster's advice and stop responding to your posts. You don't even have the courtesy to address what I say anyway, so why bother? I don't like wasting my time.

I'm out.
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
And you call yourself a Christian? Yikes.
I reject your callous attitude toward your fellow humans.
Hey, I don't call myself a "Christian". Christians are followers of Peter and Paul, the two shepherds/staffs taken to "pasture" the "flock (Gentile church) doomed for slaughter" (Zechariah 11:7), under the supervision of the "beast with two horns like a lamb" (Rev 13), the Roman emperor Constantine, who set up the Roman church, with its "many" followers (Mt 7:12-15). As for what is to happen to "fellow human beings", well that would be the coming "day of the LORD" whereas the "survivors" will be few and far between, and whereas, people will seek death, and not find it (Rev 9:6). When you run out of money to pay for high-cost heating in Ontario, because of Progressive politicians, you may seek death yourself.
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
I did a couple of days ago.
One of the thousand running from one man (Joshua 23:10). Collusive censorship is a core value of the black shirt fascist, and the brown shirt Nazis.

Joshua 23:10. One man of you shall chase a thousand, for the LORD your God is He who fights for you, as He promised you.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
One of the thousand running from one man (Joshua 23:10). Collusive censorship is a core value of the black shirt fascist, and the brown shirt Nazis.

Joshua 23:10. One man of you shall chase a thousand, for the LORD your God is He who fights for you, as He promised you.
You're not being censored. Just ignored by some for reasons given. Not the same thing.
Notice how you're still able to post?
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Hey, I don't call myself a "Christian". Christians are followers of Peter and Paul, the two shepherds/staffs taken to "pasture" the "flock (Gentile church) doomed for slaughter" (Zechariah 11:7), under the supervision of the "beast with two horns like a lamb" (Rev 13), the Roman emperor Constantine, who set up the Roman church, with its "many" followers (Mt 7:12-15). As for what is to happen to "fellow human beings", well that would be the coming "day of the LORD" whereas the "survivors" will be few and far between, and whereas, people will seek death, and not find it (Rev 9:6). When you run out of money to pay for high-cost heating in Ontario, because of Progressive politicians, you may seek death yourself.
I'm not a Christian he says, as he quotes the Bible at me.

KK.

Have a great day.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
As for what is to happen to "fellow human beings", well that would be the coming "day of the LORD" whereas the "survivors" will be few and far between, and whereas, people will seek death, and not find it (Rev 9:6). When you run out of money to pay for high-cost heating in Ontario, because of Progressive politicians, you may seek death yourself.
The Day of the Lord has come and we are all still here.

“It is evident that every age in which a Manifestation of God hath lived is divinely ordained, and may, in a sense, be characterized as God’s appointed Day. This Day, however, is unique, and is to be distinguished from those that have preceded it. The designation “Seal of the Prophets” fully revealeth its high station. The Prophetic Cycle hath, verily, ended. The Eternal Truth is now come. He hath lifted up the Ensign of Power, and is now shedding upon the world the unclouded splendor of His Revelation.” Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 60

“In the Book of Isaiah it is written: “Enter into the rock, and hide thee in the dust, for fear of the Lord, and for the glory of His majesty.” No man that meditateth upon this verse can fail to recognize the greatness of this Cause, or doubt the exalted character of this Day—the Day of God Himself. This same verse is followed by these words: “And the Lord alone shall be exalted in that Day.” This is the Day which the Pen of the Most High hath glorified in all the holy Scriptures. There is no verse in them that doth not declare the glory of His holy Name, and no Book that doth not testify unto the loftiness of this most exalted theme. Were We to make mention of all that hath been revealed in these heavenly Books and holy Scriptures concerning this Revelation, this Tablet would assume impossible dimensions.” Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 13
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
The Day of the Lord has come and we are all still here.

“It is evident that every age in which a Manifestation of God hath lived is divinely ordained, and may, in a sense, be characterized as God’s appointed Day. This Day, however, is unique, and is to be distinguished from those that have preceded it. The designation “Seal of the Prophets” fully revealeth its high station. The Prophetic Cycle hath, verily, ended. The Eternal Truth is now come. He hath lifted up the Ensign of Power, and is now shedding upon the world the unclouded splendor of His Revelation.” Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 60

“In the Book of Isaiah it is written: “Enter into the rock, and hide thee in the dust, for fear of the Lord, and for the glory of His majesty.” No man that meditateth upon this verse can fail to recognize the greatness of this Cause, or doubt the exalted character of this Day—the Day of God Himself. This same verse is followed by these words: “And the Lord alone shall be exalted in that Day.” This is the Day which the Pen of the Most High hath glorified in all the holy Scriptures. There is no verse in them that doth not declare the glory of His holy Name, and no Book that doth not testify unto the loftiness of this most exalted theme. Were We to make mention of all that hath been revealed in these heavenly Books and holy Scriptures concerning this Revelation, this Tablet would assume impossible dimensions.” Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 13
Well, Baha is dead. And the "day of the LORD" (Joel 2:30-32), following the "blood moon" (Joel 2:30), and the subsequent judgment of the nations/Gentiles (Joel 3:2) is in the wings. As for the number of "false prophets" (Matthew 7:15), they are many, Baha, Mohammad, and Paul among the "many" (Mt 7:13). Judah and Jerusalem are now being "revived" (Joel 3:1), and the next blood moon for the U.S. being on the 8 April 2024. As for Isaiah 26:20, with respect to judgment, well the dead haven't risen nor have "my people closed their doors". As for Isaiah 2:19-20, that follows there being no more idols. The world is full of idols.

Isaiah 26:…19 Your dead will live; their bodies will rise. Awake and sing, you who dwell in the dust! For your dew is like the dew of the morning, and the earth will bring forth her dead. 20Go, my people, enter your rooms and shut your doors behind you. Hide yourselves a little while until the wrath has passed. 21For behold, the LORD is coming out of His dwelling to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity. The earth will reveal her bloodshed and will no longer conceal her slain.…
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
I'm not a Christian he says, as he quotes the Bible at me.

KK.

Have a great day.
The Law and the prophets came by way of Moses, who was not a "Christian". Yeshua came to fulfill the Law and the prophets (Mt 5:17), and they remain unfilled, and awaiting the coming of the son of man (Mt 24:29-31). Your "Christianity" is the product of the false prophet Paul, and the "worthless shepherd" (Zechariah 11:17), Peter, combined with the power of the emperor of Rome, the founder of the dogmas of the Roman church, Constantine.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Isaiah 26:…19 Your dead will live; their bodies will rise. Awake and sing, you who dwell in the dust! For your dew is like the dew of the morning, and the earth will bring forth her dead.
If you think that physically dead bodies will rise from the grave as physical bodies, that is contradicted by the New Testament.

1 Corinthians 15
New Living Translation

The Resurrection Body

35 But someone may ask, “How will the dead be raised?
What kind of bodies will they have?”

40 There are also bodies in the heavens and bodies on the earth. The glory of the heavenly bodies is different from the glory of the earthly bodies. 41 The sun has one kind of glory, while the moon and stars each have another kind. And even the stars differ from each other in their glory.

42 It is the same way with the resurrection of the dead. Our earthly bodies are planted in the ground when we die, but they will be raised to live forever. 43 Our bodies are buried in brokenness, but they will be raised in glory. They are buried in weakness, but they will be raised in strength. 44 They are buried as natural human bodies, but they will be raised as spiritual bodies. For just as there are natural bodies, there are also spiritual bodies.

50 What I am saying, dear brothers and sisters, is that our physical bodies cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. These dying bodies cannot inherit what will last forever.

51 But let me reveal to you a wonderful secret. We will not all die, but we will all be transformed!
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
You're not being censored. Just ignored by some for reasons given. Not the same thing.
Notice how you're still able to post?
You are colluding with others to ignore post, which is a combined effort of censorship. Not that you will be successful, as you and the others keep replying to my post. You claim the 5th amendment (right to remain silent) with regards to your speech but are unable to follow through. You act like sovereign citizens, who make their own laws, and renounce the laws of other entities. If you were a U.S. citizen. you would have protected free speech, but as you live in Canada, you have no such protection. If you cross swords with Canada, they can freeze your bank account. Your freedoms are limited, and seem to be decreasing every moment, due to Marxist Progressives supporting Trudeau. As for being able to post, well, I get put on notice regularly, but after years in exile, they generally lift the bans. As for being put on the "ignore" list, Metis is the only one who ever followed through, yet here he is today, judging my judgments.
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
If you think that physically dead bodies will rise from the grave as physical bodies, that is contradicted by the New Testament.

1 Corinthians 15
New Living Translation

The Resurrection Body

35 But someone may ask, “How will the dead be raised?
What kind of bodies will they have?”

40 There are also bodies in the heavens and bodies on the earth. The glory of the heavenly bodies is different from the glory of the earthly bodies. 41 The sun has one kind of glory, while the moon and stars each have another kind. And even the stars differ from each other in their glory.

42 It is the same way with the resurrection of the dead. Our earthly bodies are planted in the ground when we die, but they will be raised to live forever. 43 Our bodies are buried in brokenness, but they will be raised in glory. They are buried in weakness, but they will be raised in strength. 44 They are buried as natural human bodies, but they will be raised as spiritual bodies. For just as there are natural bodies, there are also spiritual bodies.

50 What I am saying, dear brothers and sisters, is that our physical bodies cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. These dying bodies cannot inherit what will last forever.

51 But let me reveal to you a wonderful secret. We will not all die, but we will all be transformed!
1 Corinthians 15 was supposedly written by the false prophet Paul. He is referring to Hosea 6:2, which is in reference to Hosea 5, which is concerned about the judgment of Judah and Ephraim/Israel, which after they "acknowledge their guilt", such as confess their sins, they will be "revived" (Joel 3:1) after 2 days, which is 2000 years, on the 3rd day, which is the time era we are now in. As for the revival of Judah and Ephraim/Israel, that is best explained in Ezekiel 36 & 37, whereas Israel will be raised from the dead, and Judah and Ephraim will be untied on the land given to Jacob, under the kingship of David. As for 1 Cor 15:51, Paul both slept and died, as well as everyone who listened to that speech. That speech is what is known a false prophecy. Jeremiah 31:30, "everyone dies for their own iniquity". As for the millennium, none with the mark of the beast will be risen from the dead, but first they died. As for your bible translation, well it must be the JW personal translation, because it kind of doesn't meet any standard of accuracy. An "imperishable body" is not a "spiritual body". Spirit isn't flesh.
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
I'm more free in Canada than Americans are in America, in my experience. I'll stay here, thanks. :)

Someone needs to look up the definition of censorship ....
I don't know, the Canadian dollar used to be almost equal to one US dollar. Now it is around $0.75. You may think you are free, but most Canadians are having trouble paying rent, and the immigrants are simply going back home from where they came. Your constitution doesn't give a fundamental right to carry guns. Without that, you cannot defend incursions of the Canadian government into any rights you might claim. A good many Canadians can't afford their homes or the energy to heat them. Buying a home in Toronto (average cost $1.1 million) is out of the question. The Canadian government is trying to tax their farmers out of business. That is why your eggs cost $4-$5/dozen, milk $5.49/gallon.
 
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