By Their Fruits You Shall Recognize Them

[cardero]

This is a common scriptural phrase to observe and recognize the people who are closely associated to the will of God.

How are these fruits supposed to behave, act or respond?

How can we make the connection of what is required by God to the people who follow Him?

Is this a fair assessment?

With the many interpretation and translations of the Bible how can an organization measure among the many other different religions? How can we tell or judge who has good fruit?

 

[Scuba Pete]

Galations 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires. 25 Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other. NIV

It's great to see the Bible clarify itself so dramatically.

 

[michel]

Galations 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires. 25 Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other. NIV

It's great to see the Bible clarify itself so dramatically.

I don't believe that I needed that confirmation, but as you say, "It's great to see the Bible clarify itself so dramatically".

 

[sandy whitelinger]

How are these fruits supposed to behave, act or respond?

Was this a slur or bad grammatic structure?

 

[cardero]

Was this a slur or bad grammatic structure?

You're right I should have put quotations around the word fruit.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

You're right I should have put quotations around the word fruit.

So it was a bad grammatical slur? Shame on you.:no:

 

[cardero]

Galations 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires. 25 Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other. NIV

It's great to see the Bible clarify itself so dramatically.

Scuba Pete, do you believe that we can examine this fruit separately or do we have to examine the whole tree?

In other words

Does the apple fall far from the tree?
or
one bad apple don't spoil the whole bunch

 

[sandy whitelinger]

Scuba Pete, do you believe that we can examine this fruit separately or do we have to examine the whole tree?

In other words

Does the apple fall far from the tree?
or
one bad apple don't spoil the whole bunch

I'm not answering for Pete but sanctification for the Christian is an ongoing process. There is a war between the flesh and the spirit. some days the flesh wins. This is what led Paul to lament, "Oh wretched man that I am, who will deliver me from this body [flesh] of death."

 

[beloved57]

I think its a mistake to limit fruit to moral character , that can be very deceptive and misleading. Fruit also should include more often than not , ones understanding of the true doctrine of christ, in other words the fruit of ones understanding, you shall know them ! Many in our day if judging by human standards of morals would not have counted sampson a true believer. Sampson visited a prostitute all the time, but yet he was always a true believer in the God of Israel...

 

[!Fluffy!]

Galations 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires. 25 Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other. NIV

It's great to see the Bible clarify itself so dramatically.

:yes:

That shuts the door and nails it Pete.

 

[Katzpur]

I think its a mistake to limit fruit to moral character , that can be very deceptive and misleading. Fruit also should include more often than not , ones understanding of the true doctrine of christ, in other words the fruit of ones understanding, you shall know them !

So what fruits would you suggest we look for, beloved?

Many in our day if judging by human standards of morals would not have counted sampson a true believer. Sampson visited a prostitute all the time, but yet he was always a true believer in the God of Israel...

It sounds to me as if you're saying we can behave in any way we like as long as we believe in God. But I'm sure you wouldn't say that... would you?

 

[Reverend Rick]

I cannot imagine anyone who has the holy ghost in them doing anything even close to what we are disscussing. Paul said we are saved by the grace of God. James said, show me a man without works and I will show you an unsaved man. While works alone will not get us to heaven, it is impossible not to do them once saved.

I believe fruit inspection is a way to make sure you have been truly saved and have received the holly ghost.

 

[BruceDLimber]

Hi!

>do you believe that we can examine this fruit separately or do we have to examine the whole tree?

This really isn't an issue because the Bible clearly asserts a bad tree cannot bear good fruit and vice versa!

So given the "fuilts" test and others expressly provided in the Bible--not to mention its ocmmand to "test the spirits" and its assurance "Seek and ye shall find!"--, it is the duty of all to watch and evaluate religions, determine where truth lies, and follow that!

Best,

Bruce

 

[Free4all]

Fruit is: Leading someone to christ. Showing them the gospel and they get saved, that simple. That's why "a good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bringeth forth good fruit.

Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

So the way I see it is somebody may look good, talk good ect. but if they don't lead anybody to christ (good fruit) they are a false prophet. Robert schuller perhaps.

 

[beloved57]

katz

So what fruits would you suggest we look for, beloved?

I look at the fruit of their understanding first. A person who is converted by The grace of God, should Know the following :

Who Christ is according to the scripture

What did Christ accomplish via His Death, burial, and Resurrection according to scripture.

Who exactly did he accomplish it for and why.


If a person does not have spiritual understanding of these questions, They have not been converted, because The Gospel answers all those questions if faithfully preached..

It sounds to me as if you're saying we can behave in any way we like as long as we believe in God. But I'm sure you wouldn't say that... would you?

lol..How did you get that from what I have said ? Never mind..

 

[Scuba Pete]

Scuba Pete, do you believe that we can examine this fruit separately or do we have to examine the whole tree?

In other words

Does the apple fall far from the tree?
or
one bad apple don't spoil the whole bunch

Sorry for the delay... I have been out in the wilderness for the last five days.

The fruit is what is important as you pointed out. If you pick a grape, there is no need to examine the plant any further for identification purposes. However, you might want to examine and prune it, in order to improve the fruit:

John 15:1 "I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. 2 He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes so that it will be even more fruitful. 3 You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you. 4 Remain in me, and I will remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me. NIV

 

[beloved57]

Sorry for the delay... I have been out in the wilderness for the last five days.

The fruit is what is important as you pointed out. If you pick a grape, there is no need to examine the plant any further for identification purposes. However, you might want to examine and prune it, in order to improve the fruit:

John 15:1 "I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. 2 He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes so that it will be even more fruitful. 3 You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you. 4 Remain in me, and I will remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me. NIV

Fruit is extemely important, but you just need to know what the fruit is. And it is not temperment behaviour, if thats the case everybody who posseses certain temperment is a believer no matter what they believe. :no:

 

[sandy whitelinger]

Sorry for the delay... I have been out in the wilderness for the last five days.

The fruit is what is important as you pointed out. If you pick a grape, there is no need to examine the plant any further for identification purposes. However, you might want to examine and prune it, in order to improve the fruit:

John 15:1 "I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. 2 He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes so that it will be even more fruitful. 3 You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you. 4 Remain in me, and I will remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me. NIV

Very good Pete. This is all part of the process of sanctification which involves a constant war between our spirit which is lead by God and our flesh which only desires to do evil continuously.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

Fruit is extemely important, but you just need to know what the fruit is.

This was stated earlier in the thread. It comes from Galations 5:22-23:

"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

 

[Katzpur]

lol..How did you get that from what I have said ? Never mind..

No, I think I'm going to mind actually. I got that from numerous posts in which you have stated that God has already decided who He is going to save and who He is going to damn and there is absolutely nothing we can do to change His mind. You tell me how that could be interpreted in any other way than I have interpreted it.