Bye, Bye Theresa

[exchemist]

@ChristineM @exchemist

You two will gladly comment on a video that you could not be bothered to watch. If you had watched it, you would have seen George Galloway inciting a mob to extreme violence on the streets of the UK.

When have you seen a video of Tommy Robinson doing that?

If you have, then produce that video or stop acting like typical left-wingers.

Ah but you also made another claim in that post, viz. that Steve Yobbo-Doublebarrel had been "deplatformed".

That claim is false. He was able to stand in the election like anyone else. He did miserably badly because he's obviously a nasty yob and people could see that.

(P.S. I've voted Conservative in most UK elections since I was 18, starting in 1979 with Thatcher.)

 

[Notanumber]

Ah but you also made another claim in that post, viz. that Steve Yobbo-Doublebarrel had been "deplatformed".

That claim is false. He was able to stand in the election like anyone else. He did miserably badly because he's obviously a nasty yob and people could see that.

(P.S. I've voted Conservative in most UK elections since I was 18, starting in 1979 with Thatcher.)

On social media.

 

[exchemist]

On social media.

Diddums. That's his fault entirely and there are plenty of other channels for a political candidate to get his views across. According to what I read, Yobbo-Doublebarrel could not even be bothered to get a manifesto together, the lazy git.

 

[Notanumber]

Diddums. That's his fault entirely and there are plenty of other channels for a political candidate to get his views across. According to what I read, Yobbo-Doublebarrel could not even be bothered to get a manifesto together, the lazy git.

He had a bigger following that most politicians on FaceBook so he had to be silenced because he is right in both meanings of the word.

The left can say whatever they like on FaceBook and Twitter, etc.

 

[Shad]

She will finish her term on the 7th June...

Theresa May announces her resignation

... heaven help the UK who comes next. I fear the worse

I wonder how this will play out for Tories in the next few elections.

 

[Notanumber]

I wonder how this will play out for Tories in the next few elections.

I have voted Tory at every general election (never missed) except the one before last but I did not vote for them last Thursday and I will never vote for them again.

 

[Shad]

I have voted Tory at every general election (never missed) except the one before last but I did not vote for them last Thursday and I will never vote for them again.

So do you see a Labour government coming to power in the near future?

 

[Altfish]

So do you see a Labour government coming to power in the near future?

Unfortunately we have a most inept leader in Corbyn.
The Tories have been in charge, for the last 3-years, of the worse Government in my lifetime and in normal times the opposition would have a 20% point lead. They are not much better than neck and neck.

So they may win but need a coalition partner.

 

[Notanumber]

So do you see a Labour government coming to power in the near future?

Nothing would tempt me to vote for the Labour Party. I suspect there are many others that think the same way.

We have spent far too long voting for one party in an effort to keep the other party out of office.

That is the problem with a two party system but it looks like we might be getting a new two party system.

 

[Shad]

If the election has not been rigged, Tommy should be a certainty.

He was a fringe candidate regardless of one's views of his policy, his history and his character. His policy lacked details which is to be expected thus is far less appealing than established parties. A lot of rallies were a disaster from a PR standpoint. He held public rallies in areas where he couldn't control the audience while relying upon systems he can not control for security while blasting those same groups. Too many of his supporters and opponents were just there to pick a fight. His "staff" couldn't be bothered to try more moderate approaches. His "buddies" far too often were defending their friend not the candidate. His campaign was horrible using national tactics in a local riding. He relied upon communication services that he blasts. He couldn't use bad press to his advantage to reach a large audience. He is easily provoked.


There was a lot done wrong before one should even entertain the ideas of a rigged election.

 

[Shad]

Nothing would tempt me to vote for the Labour Party. I suspect there are many others that think the same way.

Sure but the point was disenfranchisement with a party does not translate to a new political party (age) becoming the majority over an established party like Labour.

We have spent far too long voting for one party in an effort to keep the other party out of office.

Sure. However keep in mind the US population has been saying that for decades. Half the adult population didn't vote in 2016. Non-establishment parties are not making a dent in elections without an establishment backer; Bernie.

That is the problem with a two party system but it looks like we might be getting a new two party system.

I thought the non-establishment parties failed to gain any ground given the current EU elections in the UK.

 

[Shad]

Unfortunately we have a most inept leader in Corbyn.
The Tories have been in charge, for the last 3-years, of the worse Government in my lifetime and in normal times the opposition would have a 20% point lead. They are not much better than neck and neck.

So they may win but need a coalition partner.

How large of a majority does a party/coalition need to be a functional legislative government following party policy? It is one thing to win an election. It is another to get policy passed.

 

[exchemist]

He had a bigger following that most politicians on FaceBook so he had to be silenced because he is right in both meanings of the word.

The left can say whatever they like on FaceBook and Twitter, etc.

Most political candidates seem to manage fine without significant use of Faecebook or Twatter.

Anyway, good riddance to a nasty piece of work. UKIP is dead, killed, amusingly enough, by Farage!

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

How large of a majority does a party/coalition need to be a functional legislative government following party policy? It is one thing to win an election. It is another to get policy passed.

Theoretically, it needs to get 50% +1 of seats in the House of Commons to have a majority and become what I think can reasonably be agreed upon as "a functional legislative government following party policy".

Realistically though, 50%+1 often isn't enough because any decision by backbenchers of the governing party to vote against the Government could result in said Government's inability to function; or backbenchers from outlying demographics (e.g. Eurosceptics in the Conservative Party) holding the Government to ransom under threat of backing the opposition if certain concessions aren't made. It could also motivate opposition MPs to turn up to Commons votes more often as a form of pressure due to the fact the muscle required to get a bill passed would mean every single governing party MP would need to be present for most/all votes. This would reduce the amount of time Government MPs have for constituency work what with travelling between constituency & Parliament etc.

 

[Notanumber]

He was a fringe candidate regardless of one's views of his policy, his history and his character. His policy lacked details which is to be expected thus is far less appealing than established parties. A lot of rallies were a disaster from a PR standpoint. He held public rallies in areas where he couldn't control the audience while relying upon systems he can not control for security while blasting those same groups. Too many of his supporters and opponents were just there to pick a fight. His "staff" couldn't be bothered to try more moderate approaches. His "buddies" far too often were defending their friend not the candidate. His campaign was horrible using national tactics in a local riding. He relied upon communication services that he blasts. He couldn't use bad press to his advantage to reach a large audience. He is easily provoked.


There was a lot done wrong before one should even entertain the ideas of a rigged election.

When you have no voice, you have no answer to propaganda.

 

[Notanumber]

Most political candidates seem to manage fine without significant use of Faecebook or Twatter.

Only because they have the backing of the MSM.

This woman still has a Twitter account but not for much longer, if she keeps posting the truth.

Katie Hopkins on Twitter

Anyway, good riddance to a nasty piece of work.

A product of the system would say that.

 

[exchemist]

Only because they have the backing of the MSM.

This woman still has a Twitter account but not for much longer, if she keeps posting the truth.

Katie Hopkins on Twitter



A product of the system would say that.

I am indeed proud to be a "product" of the British tradition of parliamentary democracy, which has managed, over the last 100 years, to avoid falling prey to brownshirts and communists alike. Tommy Yobbinson and his like are eerily similar to the brownshirts. It is very pleasing to see them largely ignored at the ballot box. Long may that continue.

 

[Notanumber]

I am indeed proud to be a "product" of the British tradition of parliamentary democracy, which has managed, over the last 100 years, to avoid falling prey to brownshirts and communists alike. Tommy Yobbinson and his like are eerily similar to the brownshirts. It is very pleasing to see them largely ignored at the ballot box. Long may that continue.

What is wrong with promoting equality for all?

 

[Altfish]

Only because they have the backing of the MSM.

This woman still has a Twitter account but not for much longer, if she keeps posting the truth.

Katie Hopkins on Twitter

A product of the system would say that.

God help us when 2% of the electorate think Katie Hopkins is the truth.

 

[Notanumber]

God help us when 2% of the electorate think Katie Hopkins is the truth.

It is typical of Britain today when someone who incites violence on the streets of Britain is given his own radio show and someone who does not carry out such despicable acts is removed from airwaves.