Bye Felicia ...

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/supreme-court-justice-scalia-dies-222420293.html

So, Scalia kicks the bucket. Little black heart must've just given out, I guess.

 

[Aquitaine]

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/supreme-court-justice-scalia-dies-222420293.html

So, Scalia kicks the bucket. Little black heart must've just given out, I guess.

As I am not American nor knew this guy, what were some of the things you didn't like about him?

EDIT: Some of the buzzwords used to describe him in the article give me the impression he may have been a bit of a bible-thumper(?).

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

So, Scalia kicks the bucket. Little black heart must've just given out, I guess.

^ disgusting

 

[StarryNightshade]

I wasn't a fan of the guy, but no one's death should be celebrated.

Not explicitly saying the OP did, but so many people on my Facebook feed are and it's disturbing.

 

[Paleo]

I wasn't a fan of the guy, but no one's death should be celebrated.

Not explicitly saying the OP did, but so many people on my Facebook feed are and it's disturbing.

^This^

 

[George-ananda]

Who is Felicia?

 

[Nietzsche]

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/supreme-court-justice-scalia-dies-222420293.html

So, Scalia kicks the bucket. Little black heart must've just given out, I guess.

Took him long enough.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I struggle to have any sympathy for him. I lost my mom a few weeks ago to cancer. She was a beautiful, strong woman who suffered much throughout her life and in the leadup to her death. She was only 65. I think I'll save my sympathy for her.

 

[Mister Emu]

Sad day for the court, it lost an amazing legal mind.

The celebration of a man's death because you sometimes disagreed with the results of his conviction in serving the Constitution of our country that is being shown is absolutely disgusting.

Some of the buzzwords used to describe him in the article give me the impression he may have been a bit of a bible-thumper(?).

He was, as far as I know, a religious man, but he did at times go against his religious beliefs because of the constitutional issues at hand, for instance he upheld death sentences even though he believes that the death sentence is an evil practice. The real issue is that he is a strict constructionist in terms of the Constitution. He stood firmly by the idea that the Constitution means what it meant, as can be reasonably determined, when the writers wrote what they did and that the only proper channel for altering the powers, rights, privileges and protections given in the Constitution was through the amendment process.

Simply, he didn't believe that his role as a judge was to determine what was the moral thing, but the legal thing; and the only legitimate method of setting what is moral into the law was the democratic process of legislation and amendment.

 

[LuisDantas]

I'm not sure I understand the taboo against celebrating the death of an influential man.

Wasn't it said at one point that the death of Bin Laden would assure Obama's reelection?

Surely if it is ok to send armed drones and guided missiles to kill people it must be ok to be thankful for a natural death.

 

[Jedster]

Not being an American I thought Scalia was a fictional character that I saw portrayed in "Boston Legal"
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2014/12/03/a-look-at-justice-scalia-on-the-small-screen/

 

[Twilight Hue]

I know in a position like the Supreme Court, a judge just isn't going to make everyone his friends.

I prefer to keep humanity in this and the politics out with my sympathy expressed for his family and friends who will miss him.

 

[LuisDantas]

I know in a position like the Supreme Court, a judge just isn't going to make everyone his friends.

I prefer to keep humanity in this and the politics out with my sympathy expressed for his family and friends who will miss him.

Fair enough. Do you feel likewise about war deaths, though?

 

[Twilight Hue]

Fair enough. Do you feel likewise about war deaths, though?

Of course. I've become more complacent in some respects. I tend to think of Shakespeare's , "All the world's a stage...."

The actions and policies don't matter anymore. Those will just be replaced by someone else, and the cycle continues on.

 

[Mister Emu]

I'm not sure I understand the taboo against celebrating the death of an influential man.

It is called human decency.

For Americans and those aware of the group, this is the kind of thing that sets in the category of Westboro Baptist Church and their ilk.

 

[Revoltingest]

It is called human decency.
For Americans and those aware of the group, this is the kind of thing that sets in the category of Westboro Baptist Church and their ilk.

Aye, sometimes there are people with whom we might
disagree with greatly at times, but they're not evil.
The Westboro phenomenon is about confusing the two,

 

[fantome profane]

I struggle to have any sympathy for him.

That says it perfectly. Whether it is what you intended or not. Sometimes we all struggle to find sympathy or compassion. But it is good to struggle.

Not that I think he is in need of any sympathy. He is now dead, he needs nothing. But he did have a family, a wife, children, grandchildren. And they are right now grieving. You know what grieving is like. Have some sympathy for them.

 

[Sunstone]

I'll reserve expressing my opinion of Justice Scalia until after he's buried -- in recognition of our common mortality and humanity.

 

[LuisDantas]

It is called human decency.

Yes, it would seem that it is indeed called by that name.

Is that correct, though?

I do not think so.

It seems to me that it involves having more respect towards people after they have died and are therefore unable to benefit from that respect than one had while they were alive.

I do not think that makes any real sense, personally.

Nor do I see how it can be sanely reconciled with approval of intentional killing with remote weapons in warfare.

Or, for that matter, with capital punishment.

Call me odd or whatever, but I think praising the dead should be considered far less of a priority than avoiding causing hurt, sorrow and death.

Far as many people know or can reasonably guess, Scalia's death will open the way for a better future. That may be unpleasant to hear, but it is the truth. It seems very reasonable to me to admit that upfront. The only downside is that it will probably hurt the feelings of those close to Scalia, but I fail to see how pretense will be more respectful.

For Americans and those aware of the group, this is the kind of thing that sets in the category of Westboro Baptist Church and their ilk.

I honestly have no idea of what you mean here. I don't even know who you are refering to.

Aye, sometimes there are people with whom we might disagree with greatly at times, but they're not evil.
The Westboro phenomenon is about confusing the two,

That may well be. But I still fail to see why it would be at all wrong to feel relief for the death of a person that, far as one honestly feels or can realize, is spreading evil.


Oh, I realize that Scalia probably never meant evil, and that even if we all knew for certain that he did, there is still the pain of those who loved him and lost him to consider.

But I lost a whole lot of my sympathy for that discourse when I noticed how casually people talk, say, of how the Atomic Bomb supposedly saved lives in World War 2. Or how easily forgotten such considerations are when "foreigners" are involved.

Legit disagreement happens. And we should aim to love or at least respect everyone. No argument there.

But I draw the line when people expect me to go full hypocritical. I do worry about the harm people such as Scalia cause and would cause further were he to survive longer. If that makes me a terrible person, than a terrible person I am. If lying about it would make me less of a terrible person, then maybe I should strive to be a terrible person after all.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

That says it perfectly. Whether it is what you intended or not. Sometimes we all struggle to find sympathy or compassion. But it is good to struggle.

Not that I think he is in need of any sympathy. He is now dead, he needs nothing. But he did have a family, a wife, children, grandchildren. And they are right now grieving. You know what grieving is like. Have some sympathy for them.

I will say that I honestly hope that he got right with God before he passed. We all have our faults. However, when you're in such a position to have such an influence on society and you decide to use that influence for bigotry and to deny the expansion of healthcare coverage, that's quite a big flaw.

When Ruth Bader-Ginsberg passes away, that will be a real day of mourning, imo. At least she'll have departed from the earth with a legacy of trying to make society a more free and equal place.