California vs Arizona

[Smoke]

Oh so sorry.
You should most likely let the Moderators know that your account has been hacked and that you are not the one who actually posted:

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You should most likely read with greater attention and comprehension before you attempt sarcasm.

 

[Smoke]

For those who state that Arizona's new immigration law is "racist" what would you do to someone who enters your house w/o your permission and refuses to leave?

*Assume the person is a mexican*

It's not just about immigrants; it's also about the racist harassment of American citizens.

For those of you who think it's not racist, what would you do to a brown person who was found in his own home?

 

[Ciscokid]

It's not just about immigrants; it's also about the racist harassment of American citizens.

For those of you who think it's not racist, what would you do to a brown person who was found in his own home?

Well if I see someone rummaging around a house and I'm not sure whether that person lives there then I'd call the cops. If I KNOW the person lives there then I leave them alone. You guys act as if cops hang out at malls carding every dark person that walks in or out. Give me a break. If we find a cop that abuses the law then fire his ***, it's that simple.

 

[KatNotKathy]

For those who state that Arizona's new immigration law is "racist" what would you do to someone who enters your house w/o your permission and refuses to leave?

*Assume the person is a mexican*

Countries are just like personal residences. Yup. If somebody moves to America illegally, it is just like having somebody walk into your house and stand around. Totally not a ridiculous analogy.

 

[KatNotKathy]

Well if I see someone rummaging around a house and I'm not sure whether that person lives there then I'd call the cops. If I KNOW the person lives there then I leave them alone.

Hahaha what? Seriously? If you see somebody "rummaging" in a house you'd call the cops even though they may as well be in their own home? Paranoid much?

 

[KatNotKathy]

Give me a break. If we find a cop that abuses the law then fire his ***, it's that simple.

But it's not that simple. Just try firing a cop. Cops have repeatedly shown themselves to cover eachothers' ***** when they do something wrong. Kill somebody with a taser? Paid leave at worst in most cases. Just look at the Maricopa County sheriff's department, which has killed innocent people without even a proper investigation. You can never trust the cops to police themselves, which is what we have going on right now.

 

[KatNotKathy]

Also, exactly how can a cop assume that somebody is here illegally without going on race? Just name one good qualifier a cop could use that says "this person might be illegal, better check his citizenship" that isn't based on the person's race or ethnicity.

 

[Troublemane]

It's racist to mock racists?

Interesting, so to uphold the law is racist?

In fact that may explain it, to allow laws to be broken and force hard working, law abiding people to bear the burden of what liberals think is ethical, that must be morality.

 

[KatNotKathy]

The complaint isn't about "upholding the law", it's about the fact that this law encourages police officers to hassle brown folks about their citizenship

 

[Smoke]

Well if I see someone rummaging around a house and I'm not sure whether that person lives there then I'd call the cops. If I KNOW the person lives there then I leave them alone.

It must take you a very long time to get from place to place. Having to stop and call the cops in front of every house where you don't know the occupants demonstrates a remarkable commitment to ... well, something.

 

[Smoke]

Interesting, so to uphold the law is racist?

If it's a racist law, or if it's "upheld" in a racist manner, of course.

 

[Troublemane]

The complaint isn't about "upholding the law", it's about the fact that this law encourages police officers to hassle brown folks about their citizenship

That is a common misrepresentation. Its does no such thing. The law does not encourage anything. It only allows officers who have already stopped someone for something, or asked to see someone's license for example, to inquire after their legal status.

Law abiding citizens have nothing to worry about. If you get pulled over for speeding in Rhode Island, and you have no license, and you are found to be an illegal immigrant, guess what? You GET DEPORTED. Why is it then a crime for Arizona to try and pass a law allowing their law enforcement to actually ENFORCE the LAW?

 

[Rakhel]

What I don't understand is why Arizona's law is unconstitutional but Oklahoma's law is constitutional.

 

[McBell]

What I don't understand is why Arizona's law is unconstitutional but Oklahoma's law is constitutional.

Um...
Because Oklahoma in the Bible Belt?

 

[Rakhel]

Oklahoma has the same law. you don't see anyone suing them over it. But I guess because Arizona is a boarder state it makes it more important

 

[Revoltingest]

Interesting, so to uphold the law is racist?

Since the AZ law comports with fed law, then fed law must be racist too.
I'll bet that's why Obama isn't enforcing it on the US/Mexican border!

 

[Smoke]

Oklahoma has the same law. you don't see anyone suing them over it.

Actually, lawsuits were filed even before the Oklahoma law became effective, and the chambers of commerce of the United States and Oklahoma won permanent injunctions against the enforcement of parts of the Oklahoma law.

 

[Rakhel]

did they? hmmmm I will look at that. but I think it is still in force.

 

[Rakhel]

two parts of the bill were deemed unenforceable.

One would prohibit employers from retaining undocumented workers while firing legal workers.
The other would require businesses working with private contractors obtain documentation that workers are here legally or, without paperwork, withhold taxes at the top rate.

Read more: Oklahoma immigration law takes hit | NewsOK.com

(i love sites that automatically add their urls when you quote them)
The rest is still enforced, and was almost as stritk as Arizona's

 

[xkatz]

Both states suck. Move on.