Can a 4 year old molest another 4 year old?

[gnomon]

It is not possible for a 4 year old to molest someone. A 4 year cannot receive sexual gratification which is implied by the act of molesting an individual.

Can the adult Western population get dumber? Yes.

 

[kiwimac]

Let me be quite clear. A 4 year old can engage in inappropriate behaviour BUT A 4 YEAR OLD CAN NOT MOLEST ANOTHER 4 YR OLD.

 

[YmirGF]

We used to call that "playing doctor" and it was seen for what it is -- a natural curiousity about the body differences between boys and girls. And parents explained that it was inappropriate to do that sort of thing and that was the end of it. Honestly!

This reminds me of the celebrated case of the six year old boy accused of "sexual harassment" because he kissed a classmate. When I was a kid, that would've been called "cute."

I agree Sharon. This is NOT a big deal. Like honestly, is there no end to this kind of drivel? I agree that the fuss caused over this innocent incident could well be far more traumatic than the titillating event itself. Kids will be kids. Why is it that adults have to act like children too?

 

[Comprehend]

what a brave new world we live in...

 

[Buttercup]

When my youngest son Brandon was four and in preschool he decided one day that the entire class should have a look at the wonderful piece of anatomy he carried around in his pants so he whipped it out for all to see.

Does this mean he is a future exhibitionist? Should he receive counseling? Should I worry about him being a sexual predator? Nonsense I say. Our family still has a good laugh about it to this day. And fortunately he's felt no further need for an x rated show and tell.

By the way....I distinctly remember playing doctor with a boy when we were both 5. Should I file charges retroactively?

 

[Ðanisty]

This is ridiculous. Like Becky said, children play in order to understand reality. They have no idea that something like this is inappropriate until you tell them. Even if the girl did cry, it doesn't make it abuse. Sometimes, little girls will cry if you just touch them on the arm!

 

[lilithu]

what a brave new world we live in...

Indeed it is a brave new world when four year olds get accused of molestation.

 

[Bishka]

This is ridiculous. Like Becky said, children play in order to understand reality. They have no idea that something like this is inappropriate until you tell them. Even if the girl did cry, it doesn't make it abuse. Sometimes, little girls will cry if you just touch them on the arm!

Exactly....unless malicious intent can be proven (which with four-year olds its rare), it was probably just play, sorting out their reality.

 

[Sunstone]

I feel it's one thing when an adult becomes a pedophile. But it's entirely another when a four year old already shows signs of becoming a pedophile. When they start that young, there's no turning back. Hence, I shall not rest until that pedophile is tried and incarcerated. Ten years is too good for him. Give him twenty, I say!

 

[nutshell]

Thats right! Turk has come out of RF retirement to ask this burning question. Let me set up the scenario for you.

So I am sitting here, watching E.R. when there is a break in the show to promote the 10 P.M. news. This is what I heard. "A 4 year old molests another 4 year old at a day care center." and "this is a bigger problem than was once thought."

So I am sitting there wondering if something with no feelings or knowledge of sexuality can molest something else with no feelings or knowledge of sexuality.

The nature of what they called "abuse" was described in detail but basically it all comes down to the fondling of a little girls private parts by a little boy.

So what do you all think?

There is no "molestation" going on, but the parents need to be quizzed because the children (or at least the one instigating it) are imitating behavior they have seen elsewhere.

 

[Bishka]

There is no "molestation" going on, but the parents need to be quizzed because the children (or at least the one instigating it) are imitating behavior they have seen elsewhere.

That's what I was trying to say....but not sure if how I said it came out that way. My english is no good today.

 

[turk179]

There is no "molestation" going on, but the parents need to be quizzed because the children (or at least the one instigating it) are imitating behavior they have seen elsewhere.

I really believe that this was much more innocent than that (a "lets see whats behind door #2 type situation") but if what you say is true than an investigation might be in order, for a child that age should not have any knowledge of sexuality of that nature. But I highly doubt an investigation is in order.

I feel it's one thing when an adult becomes a pedophile. But it's entirely another when a four year old already shows signs of becoming a pedophile. When they start that young, there's no turning back. Hence, I shall not rest until that pedophile is tried and incarcerated. Ten years is too good for him. Give him twenty, I say!

Sunstone! Are you crazy?! You can't send a four year old to prison! How could you even suggest that. We would have to lower all the sinks and toilets. The picnic tables would have to be lowered as well. Not to mention all of the nap time play mats that would have to be purchased. This would cost the tax payers millions.
I suggest sending these evil little deviants to the Marines. :slap:

 

[astarath]

No. To molest is defined by intent.

4 year olds have no intent other than curiosity. They just want to learn about what they see around them. They haven't attached a moral value to things yet.


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I agree there is no intent, the crime is on whoever placed that curiousity in the minds of 4 year olds?

 

[lilithu]

Hey Turk, can a 4-yr old molest an adult? Enquiring minds want to know!

So I was trying to get info on your story and found this instead:

http://www.wbir.com/news/national/story.aspx?storyid=40312

 

[Sunstone]

Sunstone! Are you crazy?! You can't send a four year old to prison! How could you even suggest that. We would have to lower all the sinks and toilets. The picnic tables would have to be lowered as well. Not to mention all of the nap time play mats that would have to be purchased. This would cost the tax payers millions.
I suggest sending these evil little deviants to the Marines. :slap:

It's bleeding heart liberals like you, Turk, who are largely responsible for the soaring rate of pedophile toddlers. Sure, kids are cute at that age, but cute is no reason to coodle the little fiends when they turn to a life of crime. I'm holding out for prison or church camp.

 

[Buttercup]

Hey Turk, can a 4-yr old molest an adult? Enquiring minds want to know!

So I was trying to get info on your story and found this instead:

http://www.wbir.com/news/national/story.aspx?storyid=40312

OH brother! I say that aide is going to have a troubled career with children. Kids do odd things and it doesn't mean a thing other than an opportunity to teach. She merely should have told the boy that was unappropriate behavior.

I once had a three year old boy in my Sunday school class try to lift up the bottom of my skirt. I simply told him that wasn't polite and left it at that. This world is becoming too PC at times.

 

[turk179]

Hey Turk, can a 4-yr old molest an adult? Enquiring minds want to know!

So I was trying to get info on your story and found this instead:

http://www.wbir.com/news/national/story.aspx?storyid=40312

What adult in their right mind could possibly think for one second that a 4 year old could ...... I can't think of a darned thing to say......... I'll give up trying......

 

[lilithu]

It's bleeding heart liberals like you, Turk, who are largely responsible for the soaring rate of pedophile toddlers. Sure, kids are cute at that age, but cute is no reason to coodle the little fiends when they turn to a life of crime. I'm holding out for prison or church camp.

Sunstone, it's obvious that are just throwing around the accusation to hide your own lily-livered liberalness. 20 years in prison, you say? C'mon! You know what the recidivism rate is for sexual deviants! They can't be cured! Just like a tax-and-spend liberal to waste the tax-payers money. It's obvious what needs to be done. < snip snip> You're just not willing to admit it, you spineless bleeding heart.

 

[Bishka]

What adult in their right mind could possibly think for one second that a 4 year old could ...... I can't think of a darned thing to say......... I'll give up trying......

Don't give up.......I'm still fighting it as well. Some people don't seem to understand early childhood development and child development in general. I've been going to school and studying AND working with children for 3-5 years now and have a bit of knowledge in it and I still have people telling me that child development is all phooey!

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I would hope this isn't furthered in the media, and I pray the courts do nothing about it. A curious four year old boy having to register as a sex offender would make me greatly ashamed of this nation.
I just wonder how the hell you can pursue something like this, with the "offender" and "victim" only being four years old? I would say that naturally they would both forget about it in a month or two, but this will definitly leave a scar.