Can anyone come up with a good reason why Herman Cain would not be a great president in 2012?

[Magic Man]

I absolutley love Herman Cain. :yes:

I'm not surprised; he's a Tea Partier. From that bit of information I have to assume he'd make a bad president, but I don't know enough about him to say it with certainty.

I read a bit of his Wiki entry, but I still don't have a good grasp of his positions on most issues. I don't like his support of the gold standard and his opposition to "entitlement" programs. I do like the tiny bit I read about his support for TARP, although he apparently also supports a "non-federally subsidized economic stimulus". I'm not even sure what that means. What is a stimulus not paid for by the federal government?

He also doesn't seem to have had any experience in political office. It's funny to me that some of the same people criticizing Obama for having little experience in political office are the same people supporting candidates like this.

"nuff said" also seems to signify nothing.

Actually it signifies that anyone who identifies with the Tea Party would not make a good president.

After 2 stumblebums in office running the country into the ground, it's time to consider outsiders with a record of accomplishment.

You mean one stumblebum who ran the country into the ground and one decent president who made some mistakes but did some good work to make up for the stumblebum and start to get things back on track.

Also, what is Cain's record of accomplishment? And why does just being an outsider make you a better candidate?

 

[doppelganger]

"nuff said" also seems to signify nothing.

And I'm not running for office. No need to be a nitwit.

 

[jarofthoughts]

Seeing as I am the rightful ruler of the galaxy I think it is time we put all this talk about 'presidents' and 'elections' behind us. :sarcastic

 

[Revoltingest]

And I'm not running for office. No need to be a nitwit.

You're missing the irony that 2 scholarship awards were granted to a guy who makes comments like "nuff said".
That alone should earn you a humor award too.
It's silly to dismiss a candidate entirely because of their political party, summarily exiting all discussion.

 

[Reverend Rick]

I read a bit of his Wiki entry, but I still don't have a good grasp of his positions on most issues.

Also, what is Cain's record of accomplishment? And why does just being an outsider make you a better candidate?

I'm glad you asked Matt. Perhaps this will help you get up to speed.

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YouTube - Just Herman Cain's Answers in First Republican Debate for 2012

 

[GabrielWithoutWings]

Have you listened to his talk radio program? The man is bat**** insane.

My wife listens to him in the car all the time. When asked why, she states that it's like watching a train wreck.

 

[GabrielWithoutWings]

I dunno why Tea Party supporters don't go all en masse for Ron Paul.

He's bat**** insane as well but he has 30 years in politics and he's so consistent you can set your watch by him.

 

[Yerda]

I absolutley love Herman Cain. :yes:

That's a good enough reason for me.

 

[Magic Man]

I'm glad you asked Matt. Perhaps this will help you get up to speed.

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YouTube - Just Herman Cain's Answers in First Republican Debate for 2012

Thanks. I don't have time to watch the whole thing, but I got through half of it. I disagree with him on the "Fair" Tax, and while I agree with his stated method of coming to a conclusion on the Afghanistan war, I'm not sure why he couldn't have already come to some conclusion on what he wants to do about it. His answer on that sounds to me more like a way to not commit to anything.

All in all, he doesn't sound as crazy as some of the candidates, but I still don't think he's a good choice for president.

 

[Reverend Rick]

All in all, he doesn't sound as crazy as some of the candidates, but I still don't think he's a good choice for president.

I can understand you not voting for him Matt. I don't believe you will ever vote Republican in your life time, (although I still have hope for you).

The thing is, I don't believe we want a country where Obama becomes King. There still needs to be an election and someone will have to run against him. It might as well be Herman.

I don't want the thread to be about the fair tax, but many people object because it would be unfair to the least advantaged of Americans.

Most people who object don't consider that their paycheck would be greater with out federal withholding putting more money into their hands each week.

Then there is the prebate check they would receive monthly to offset the unfairness. Basically the government would pay their taxes for them so they would not be adversely affected.

I hope you watch the rest of the video, you just might agree with him on other issues.

Like I said, I don't expect you to vote or him, perhaps you might acknowledge he might make a good Republican nominee.

I'm sure that is an oxymoron for you however.

How about he sucks the least?

 

[Revoltingest]

Have you listened to his talk radio program? The man is bat**** insane.

We each have our flavor of insanity which we prefer.
Some worship Paul Krugman, who pushes the insanity that we must print even more fiat currency & borrow even more trillions
for the crazy subsidies & waste of economic stimulus. He doesn't worry if it doesn't work....he has the faith. But he won't
have to personally pay back the massive debt either. I prefer Cain's insanity to Krugman's, Obama's, Pelosi's, Bush's, Frank's, etc.

 

[Magic Man]

I can understand you not voting for him Matt. I don't believe you will ever vote Republican in your life time, (although I still have hope for you).

The thing is, I don't believe we want a country where Obama becomes King. There still needs to be an election and someone will have to run against him. It might as well be Herman.

I agree it would be nice to make Obama work for it, and make him realize he has to do a better job next time. I don't rule out voting for a Republican, but I can't see it happening in the current climate.

I don't want the thread to be about the fair tax, but many people object because it would be unfair to the least advantaged of Americans.

Most people who object don't consider that their paycheck would be greater with out federal withholding putting more money into their hands each week.

Then there is the prebate check they would receive monthly to offset the unfairness. Basically the government would pay their taxes for them so they would not be adversely affected.

My biggest problem with the "Fair" Tax is that it's unnecessary. Either way, we need X amount of money. Even if we cut spending the way we should, we still will have X amount of spending. We need to collect that amount in revenues. Right now the rich pay a smaller portion of that X amount than they should. Even the "Fair" Tax fixes that so that the rich pay a larger portion, I'm fine with it, but it would still be easier to just fix the system we already have in place.

I hope you watch the rest of the video, you just might agree with him on other issues.

I don't doubt I would. That's why I stopped it when I did, though, because I saw enough to know that even if I agree with him on some things, I disagree with him on enough others that I don't think he'd make a good president.

Like I said, I don't expect you to vote or him, perhaps you might acknowledge he might make a good Republican nominee.

I'm sure that is an oxymoron for you however.

How about he sucks the least?

Maybe. I'll have to see what the others have to offer. He's certainly not the worst possibility at this point. But regarding the question in the title, I think there are several reasons he wouldn't make a good or great president.

 

[sky dancer]

Big mouth, zip experience. Pizza man for President!

 

[Revoltingest]

Big mouth, zip experience.

Who ?

 

[Amill]

I absolutley love Herman Cain. :yes:

I dislike that he is opposed to Muslims being appointed to positions within the government because of their religion. I dislike that he is against legalizing same-sex marriage. And I dislike that he was against the New Start deal with Russia.

 

[Father Heathen]

I don't think he would make a good president because I'm a pro-equality, pro-rights, pro-freedom kind of guy.

 

[Kathryn]

I can understand you not voting for him Matt. I don't believe you will ever vote Republican in your life time, (although I still have hope for you).

The thing is, I don't believe we want a country where Obama becomes King. There still needs to be an election and someone will have to run against him. It might as well be Herman.

I don't want the thread to be about the fair tax, but many people object because it would be unfair to the least advantaged of Americans.

Most people who object don't consider that their paycheck would be greater with out federal withholding putting more money into their hands each week.

Then there is the prebate check they would receive monthly to offset the unfairness. Basically the government would pay their taxes for them so they would not be adversely affected.

I hope you watch the rest of the video, you just might agree with him on other issues.

Like I said, I don't expect you to vote or him, perhaps you might acknowledge he might make a good Republican nominee.

I'm sure that is an oxymoron for you however.

How about he sucks the least?

My gosh, if we go to a Fair Tax system or any version of a system based on consumption, my household will go to hell in a handbasket.

And I'm sure there will be a sideshow the likes of which Marie Antoinette would be jealous of, cheering all along the way.

It's a win/win situation. I say let's go for it.

 

[Vile Atheist]

Herman Cain does not know what the Constitution is.

 

[Revoltingest]

Herman Cain does not know what the Constitution is.

Sounds like he'd fit right in.

 

[LuisDantas]

From that article he sounds way too militaristic to deserve support.

And, of course, he is a Republican. At this point this is already a warning sign, more so when he falls just short of presenting the Tea Party as a reference. Even Democrats have become way too Republican-like already.

And then there is this:

If they did not want to become a democracy, I do not think President Bush forced it upon them. Once it was clear that they wanted to become a democracy, President Bush pledged to help them do that. I know enough from the reports that I've read that this is something the Iraqi people wanted.

No one who attempts to say such a thing with a straight face deserves to be elected.

As for the Fair Tax, I don't think it is a good idea either.