Can Biden fire Trump

[Shaul]

What is the case number?

Really?! You are opining about the case and you don't even know the case number involved? You're done. It is clear you aren't serious.

 

[Riders]

For multiple reasons, this will not happen. The only case with any potential is the case in New York which also won't happen. See here,
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/06/trump-sentencing-probably-wont-happen-00187999

I read that. That case will happen, what they said is that sense he is president they probably wont put him in prison. But they still have to sentence him, either with fine, or they could ankle cuff him to the white house, if not that something we spoke about here on debate before is that if they don't imprison him for that they can restrict his travel staying in Washington. It'll be a pain in his but and he won't like it which is something.

 

[McBell]

Really?! You are opining about the case and you don't even know the case number involved? You're done. It is clear you aren't serious.

i am most curious about this super secret court case about a sitting president having a political rival assassinated that went through all the court motions and not made it to the media at all...

 

[UpperLimits]

Didn't work for Trump, so no reason to think it would work for Harris.

As I recall, not accepting the outcome, declaring a fraudulent election, and then attempting to influence the electoral college didn't work for Hillary in 2016 either....

One thing for sure though, there's gonna be an awful lot of tired puppies with all these puppy cuddling events the Democrats have set up everywhere.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Really?! You are opining about the case and you don't even know the case number involved? You're done. It is clear you aren't serious.

No, you need to say what case number after the decision made that clear. The decision itself appears to support that claim. All that it needs to be is an official act.

The good news for Biden is that he is getting rather old. If he took some Trumpian delaying tactics he probably would not be tired while still alive.

 

[Riders]

There are 3 ways I have figured out 3 ways Karma can get him. Number 1 being over weight at age 78 and mentally ill he could die before his term is over or his health could fail and he have to quit, another karma thing is his hate towards the media, he blew up on them yesterday instead of celebrating, if they keep following him he could have many issues with it, 3rdly Dems can stage a long protest at the whitehouse, NONVIOLENt of course.

 

[anotherneil]

But he can be impeached right?

He an once he's in office, if that's what the House of Representatives decides to do; are you talking about now, before he takes office for his 2nd term?

 

[anotherneil]

The only way he can be impeached at this point is if the Democrats win the House -- and this is in some significant doubt. In any case, a newly empowered Senate won't convict anyway.

There's no reason Trump cannot be impeached and convicted with and by a Republican majority in both the House & Senate. Maybe Democrats won't impeach & convict their own, but that doesn't necessarily mean the Republicans roll like that too. If the House does become Republican majority - and it looks like that's what's going to happen - and they do impeach and convict Trump during in his 2nd term, then we know it wasn't just for political reasons; it would be because he really did something that deserved getting impeached & convicted for.

Donald Trump now has effectively unlimited power -- he is now your King.

No, he's not going to have effectively unlimited power, and he's not a king; unlike Canada, we're a constitutional republic & the US president's power is limited only to executive branch powers granted by our constitution. There's also something we call separation of powers along with checks and balances with the judicial and legislative branches of government.

 

[anotherneil]

No, that isn't true at all. Indeed it is a lie.

Stop spouting falsehoods. After the multiple attempts on Trumps life, these statements of yours are highly inappropriate.

It seems like there's more than one person around on drugs.

 

[anotherneil]

No, it is not a lie.
Regardless of how much you dislike it.
The fact of the matter is it has not been tested yet in a court.

And it until it is, it is up for grabs.

I wonder how long before Trump tests it?

What are you talking about? Specifically what SCOTUS ruling? I don't know how any such conclusion can possibly be drawn from any SCOTUS ruling. Up to this point you're just ranting with vague and dubious claims.

 

[Subduction Zone]

What are you talking about? Specifically what SCOTUS ruling? I don't know how any such conclusion can possibly be drawn from any SCOTUS ruling. Up to this point you're just ranting with vague and dubious claims.

You really need to follow the topic in real life if you want to debate it:

Lofgren Statement on the U.S. Supreme Court’s Presidential Immunity Decision

"I strongly disagree with the Supreme Court on this decision ."

lofgren.house.gov

" The Court declared that a President is immune from prosecution when exercising the ‘core powers’ of the presidency. Immunity means a person cannot be prosecuted – it is not merely a defense to prosecution. Although the majority did not outline the exact ‘core powers,’ nor what would lay outside them as an ‘unofficial act’ with even one example from the case at-hand, there is no greater or clearer example of a ‘core power’ than what is outlined in Article II, Section II of the U.S. Constitution stating that the ‘President shall be the Commander in Chief.’"

In other words, all that the President has to claim is that it was an "official act" and as written he may be off the hook. The USSC gave the President immunity with a supposed limit to it, but it never defined what those limits are.

The challenge has gone out to Trump supporters to find any limits and they have not provided any to date.

EDIT: And it is even worse if you read the whole thing. The USSC was actually asked about whether the President could order a SEAL team to kill a political rival:

“During arguments on this case, a question was posed to Trump lawyers about whether a President could dispatch a ‘SEAL Team’ to kill his political enemies. Like the dissent articulated, the Court’s decision Monday answers that question with ‘yes.’ Under this ruling, if a President, in their official capacity, orders the military to kill other Americans – judges, elected officials, reporters, your neighbor – they can do so. I think most Americans, and I include myself, think that should be a crime. But the Court decision says that a President who did that would be immune from accountability under criminal law.