That's pretty messed up. If you don't mind me asking, why might you be denied medically indicated care based on their interpretation of Christianity?
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Can Christians Eat Raspberries?
- Thread starter mangalavara
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That's pretty messed up. If you don't mind me asking, why might you be denied medically indicated care based on their interpretation of Christianity?
Our Catholic hospitals refuse any care that they deem incompatible with the principles of the Catholic faith.
As someone without a uterus, the main implication for me would be around medical assistance in dying. It's legal in Canada and medical associations have protocols for MAID, but Catholic hospitals refuse to allow MAID in their facilities.
They'll allow people to be transferred to other facilities (provided those other facilities have an available bed), but often, by the time discussion of MAID as an imminent option comes up, the patient is too frail to be transported.
It's definitely worse for people who are pregnant or might become pregnant. For one example of what can happen, see the story of Savita Halappanavar:
Death of Savita Halappanavar - Wikipedia
But you understand why I'm entitled to a say in your religion, right?
I see what you mean. Basically, they can say, 'No, it is immoral because of what (institution) says,' and then you suffer as a consequence.
Thanks for that fine example. I have just read about Savita. The sepsis and her death could have been prevented, but no, Ireland 'is a Catholic country.'
I Am Hugh
Researcher
Yes.
Figs grow on trees and are part of the mulberry family. There are good fig trees and bad fig trees, the distinction being whether or not they produce fruit. Bad trees are destroyed while good trees are tended to. You don't get figs from brambles; you don't get raspberries from a fig tree. That isn't to say one is good and the other bad.
Jesus gave the illustration sometime late in 32 CE, which means he had been baptized and started his ministry three years earlier. From the start of Luke 13 you see reference to the killings of some Galileans by Pilate, as well as the reference of 18 who were killed when the tower of Siloam fell. People tend to look at those sorts of things in an odd way. For example, that the tower fell on them due to their sin. He asked if the sin of the others was any less deserving of destruction, pointing out we will all be destroyed. The wages of sin are death. People pray for the faithful to live and be safe, but if they aren't is it because they deserve to die? That they were unfaithful? The benefits of rain fall upon the righteous and the unrighteous.
Three years of Jesus' work is significant because that's what it took for a fig tree to produce fruit. Look at the practice of people of that time. They had the vineyard for income. As a safety net they planted fig and olive trees some distance away. New trees from cuttings would produce at least some figs within three years. From a distance the fig tree appears to be fruitful, but that was deceptive. The tree was fruitless, taking up space, to be destroyed.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Sure, go ahead I guess. If that's how you get your jollies.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Your name is difficult to spell.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I don't get a say in the process. But I agree that we need a better Pope.
Thank goodness it's right up there on the screen to reference.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
True, and I definitely had to reference it, and still didn't get it completely right though I believe it is at least spelled correctly.
You just have to make this about your axe to grind against the Catholic Church, don't you? Of course they don't allow assisted suicide in Catholic hospitals as it's a mortal sin in Catholic teaching. Same with abortions. I can't go to a Catholic hospital and expect them to go along with me being a trans man, either. So I don't go to Catholic health facilities (or anything Catholic at this point unless it's social services because they help everyone). The case from Ireland, as I recall, was a tragedy based on misunderstanding the law.Our Catholic hospitals refuse any care that they deem incompatible with the principles of the Catholic faith.
As someone without a uterus, the main implication for me would be around medical assistance in dying. It's legal in Canada and medical associations have protocols for MAID, but Catholic hospitals refuse to allow MAID in their facilities.
They'll allow people to be transferred to other facilities (provided those other facilities have an available bed), but often, by the time discussion of MAID as an imminent option comes up, the patient is too frail to be transported.
It's definitely worse for people who are pregnant or might become pregnant. For one example of what can happen, see the story of Savita Halappanavar:
Death of Savita Halappanavar - Wikipedia
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In all the years I was Catholic and studied things about it, I've never heard of this as an issue. It's always been allowed in Christianity as far as I know. That verse is interpreted as a metaphor for faith.