But this isn't an empirical finding. It's folklore.To answer your first question above,
It's quite easy, seeing that Adam and Eve were naked when God created them, then why didn't God clothed them then.
But it was only after Adam and Eve sinned then God clothed them.
If I promoted a theology based on The Chronicles of Narnia or The Silmarillion I'm sure you wouldn't take me seriously -- because they have no empirical support.
Before you can quote The Bible as an authoritative historical or metaphysical work you need to provide evidence that it's true and reliable.
I Don't see how this follows. How did you come to that conclusion?So it wasn't because Adam and Eve were naked, But rather because of their sin.
No. I'm asking you to use the intelligence Nature gave you. To believe what is well evidenced, and to hold what isn't as undeternined -- pending evidence.Here's what your asking me a Christian, to step outside of what God has revealed to me in his word.
You are squandering God's gift of intelligence.
What about testing and peer review?How do you suppose Albert Einstein came by the atomic bomb, by digging, researching, reasoning.
People speculate all the time, and come up with all kinds of theorems, educated guesses, and pure speculations. It's how these ideas are processed that make or break them.
Einstein's theories began as theorems. It was only after they were peer reviewed, and tested that they were found to be accurate and predictive.
Most theology isn't even testable, it's not based on reliable observation, it's not predictive or even falsifiable.
The Bible isn't a textbook, it's not a book of facts. Beliefs derived from it are faith based, not fact based.
We're using the term civilized in completely different senses. You're using it colloquially, to mean proper behavior according to your personal, Christian standpoint. I'm using it as a technical, anthropological term for a major cultural strategy.As for your forth question above as you said
( So why did God make so few of us
civilized)
From a Christian stand point, to be civilized
means you don't take babies and abort them or kill them just hours before they are born or just after they are born.
It's you who want to take us backward, into a theocratic, authoritarian Christian Republic.Unto which will take us backwards to the days when people would sacrifice their children. Isn't that in some way that abortions are doing to babies.sacrificing them.
And people want to call that being civilized.
Aren't we still "sacrificing" our children on battlefields all over the world? Aren't we essentially indifferent to the welfare of children -- and adults, for that matter -- after they're born? Aren't many Christian denominations strong supporters of legislation to cut back on social safety nets, welfare and training programs, maternal leave programs, &c?
This love of foetuses and indifference to people strikes me as somewhat schizophrenic and hypocritical.
True. And a lot will also kill, abandon or eat their babies if they're inconvenient to maternal or group welfare.There are a lot of animals that do a better job of taking care of their babies before their born and after their born, than human beings does, and people want to refer themselves as being civilized.
FYI: Civilization is a culture type. A culture is a broad, learned, survival strategy. There are different major types: Hunter-gatherering, horticulturalist, pastoralist, agricutural, civilized, &c. A civilization has certain, definitive features: permanent towns/habitations, surplusses, a division of labor, with specialization -- including 'religious' specialists; a social hierarchy, a writing system, monumental architecture.So i guess were to return to the stone age.
And that's civilized.
Child-care practices are not definitive of "Civilization."
Frankly, back to the stone age" is beginning to sound like a good idea, considering that our present 'civilization' seems unsustainable. Didn't stone age people have rich, happy lives?In the way humans are going that's exactly where the human race is heading, right backwards to the stone age of not being civilized human beings.