Can God rescue a soul from hell?

[Enoch07]

All these answers make much better sense than Traditional Christianity offers.
Perhaps a traditional Christian has a response?

These answers generally mesh with the Universalist view, that Almighty God wants all of His children to be Saved. And Almighty God always gets what Almighty God wants. That makes somewhat more sense to me than the traditional Christian teachings on this subject.
Tom

The idea of a hell where demons with pitchforks torture sinners for all eternity is not biblical. It is works of fiction such as "Dante's Divine Comedy" That have inspired these ideas. "Hell" in this sense is nothing more than a work of fiction. Used to fear monger people into believing or else. It has pushed more people away than it has drawn in
And any drawn in by this fear are "believing" for the wrong reasons. Which causes it's on set of problems that only makes things worse.

 

[columbus]

The idea of a hell where demons with pitchforks torture sinners for all eternity is not biblical.

I find it remarkable how much of traditional Christian teachings aren't really Biblical.
I came to some pretty clear opinions about Christian teachings in general.
Tom

 

[JoshuaTree]

Hell is only the perception that God is not in control. God saves us from hell through Faith. If man could save himself God would not be in control. Nicodemus was perplexed by this.

 

[Enoch07]

I find it remarkable how much of traditional Christian teachings aren't really Biblical.
I came to some pretty clear opinions about Christian teachings in general.
Tom

We call this the "pollution of the altar" or "traditions of men". It's when people inject their own opinions and teach it. When all it does is corrupt the message.

 

[Spiderman]

All these answers make much better sense than Traditional Christianity offers.
Perhaps a traditional Christian has a response?

These answers generally mesh with the Universalist view, that Almighty God wants all of His children to be Saved. And Almighty God always gets what Almighty God wants. That makes somewhat more sense to me than the traditional Christian teachings on this subject.
Tom

Bible
says:

And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself.”

For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people,

And all flesh shall see the salvation of God.’”

For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive.

And through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether on earth or in heaven, making peace by the blood of his cross.

On this mountain the Lord of hosts will make for all peoples a feast of rich food, a feast of well-aged wine, of rich food full of marrow, of aged wine well refined. And he will swallow up on this mountain the covering that is cast over all peoples, the veil that is spread over all nations. He will swallow up death forever; and the Lord God will wipe away tears from all faces, and the reproach of his people he will take away from all the earth, for the Lord has spoken.

 

[lostwanderingsoul]

Think about this. If you throw a piece of paper in a fire and it burns up, can you get it back out of the ashes? The true hell of the Bible ( not the false hell people imagine ) will burn people up. They are not sitting in fire for eternity. Once they are burned up there is no rescue.

 

[Sleeppy]

I'm not sure God is unchanging...he may learn new things or have change of heart

Does that describe an all-knowing God?

 

[Spiderman]

Think about this. If you throw a piece of paper in a fire and it burns up, can you get it back out of the ashes? The true hell of the Bible ( not the false hell people imagine ) will burn people up. They are not sitting in fire for eternity. Once they are burned up there is no rescue.

God can throw a piece of paper into a fire and after it turns into Ash can turn it back into a piece of paper....

 

[Spiderman]

Does that describe an all-knowing God?

Scripture says God was sorry for having ever created mankind. Can an all-knowing God be sorry?

 

[JoshuaTree]

Perhaps the author gave a wink to those who believe in an all knowing God that the flood wasn't meant to be taken literally?

 

[Politesse]

All these answers make much better sense than Traditional Christianity offers.
Perhaps a traditional Christian has a response?

These answers generally mesh with the Universalist view, that Almighty God wants all of His children to be Saved. And Almighty God always gets what Almighty God wants. That makes somewhat more sense to me than the traditional Christian teachings on this subject.
Tom

Depends on who you trust to define "tradition" for you. My views are a bit unorthodox, certainly, but I never swore fealty to Rome as best as I can recall. My full perspective falls fairly close to Origenism in basic shape, a heresy but not a new one.

 

[Thief]

It is biblical that God can change his mind. Moses got God to repent of "the evil he planned to do". Let's say there is a hell. Can God decide the person has suffered enough for their crimes and end their misery? Of course! Why not?

I believe the peace of heaven is guarded

perhaps....your presence in heaven a matter of tolerance
can you walk among the angelic with grace?
will they let you try?

 

[columbus]

Perhaps the author gave a wink to those who believe in an all knowing God that the flood wasn't meant to be taken literally?

I think having two different Creation Stories at the beginning of Genesis is a pretty good wink and nod.

And yes, that was a "T'was the Night Before Christmas" reference. In case anybody missed it.
Tom

 

[Thief]

Hell is only the perception that God is not in control. God saves us from hell through Faith. If man could save himself God would not be in control. Nicodemus was perplexed by this.

would it not be your own 'control' that sets you in hell?

so...God is not in control....
and you could end up in hell because He isn't?

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

But you made me wonder: how, if at all, are people supposed to escape hell?

I once found Satan's keys in his office.

If you throw a piece of paper in a fire and it burns up, can you get it back out of the ashes?

Well, yeah. If God can make a male human out of some dirt, making paper out of ash shouldn't be too hard.

Perhaps the author gave a wink to those who believe in an all knowing God that the flood wasn't meant to be taken literally?

That, or the authors were keen on inventing superpowers for God and then forgetting the consequences of having said powers, like saying for God nothing is impossible and then mentioning iron chariots and headless people. Why can't God defeat iron chariots? Is He a fairy? Why can't God resurrect beheaded people?

 

[JoshuaTree]

I think having two different Creation Stories at the beginning of Genesis is a pretty good wink and nod.

And yes, that was a "T'was the Night Before Christmas" reference. In case anybody missed it.
Tom

Regarding the two creation stories... Perhaps the author was trying to answer the age old philosophical question as to which came first, the chicken or the egg. Genesis 1 portrayed a chicken first creation, Genesis 2 portrayed an egg first creation. In my opinion the author wasn't favoring either possibility but rather suggesting however it happened that God was responsible.

 

[JoshuaTree]

would it not be your own 'control' that sets you in hell?

so...God is not in control....
and you could end up in hell because He isn't?

If God isn't in control then there's no hope for us i think.

 

[Sleeppy]

Scripture says God was sorry for having ever created mankind. Can an all-knowing God be sorry?

That's the question.

 

[Shia Islam]

It is biblical that God can change his mind. Moses got God to repent of "the evil he planned to do". Let's say there is a hell. Can God decide the person has suffered enough for their crimes and end their misery? Of course! Why not?

As a Shia Muslim, we believe that God, the all-knowing, will never change his mind. He has no limits what so ever in all of his attributes.

On the other hand, when it come to Hellfire, we believe that: not all of those who will be burn in Hellfire- May He save us from it- will stay in it forever.

As there are some believers who have committed huge crimes and mischief which led them to Hellfire, however because of God Mercy, and because they are not like the other great criminals who will stay in Hellfire forever, these believers will be saved from Hellfire and will enter paradise at some point..

As of those who don't believe in God, not because of their mere denial, but because they did not receive the word, or because they did not have the mental ability to discover the truth, they will be tested after death..And if they have good in their hearts, they will be granted paradise, otherwise they will join the followers of Satan, the devil.

This is the teachings of Shia Islam..and it may be true for the Sunnis too..

Some will find their hearts rejecting it..
I know..
This is how things are...
We hold different thoughts and views...
We live with them and we die with them..
At some points, however, some change their thoughts..
Sometimes communities change their thoughts..
But in the normal situations, the majority will just follow the religions of their communities..
Good luck for you all

 

[Akivah]

Can God decide the person has suffered enough for their crimes and end their misery?

There is NO place of eternal punishment. G-d doesn't punish mortal beings with eternal punishment.

There is a place of repentance. The maximum duration a soul stays in that place is one year. G-d decides when each soul is released from that place, to go onto Heaven.