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Can philosophy be proved by the scientific method

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Can philosophy be proved by the scientific method?

I understand that all or many aspects of Philosophy cannot be proved / evidenced or demonstrated to be reliable by the Scientific Method.
Right, please?

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#355 paarsurrey
"Scientific Method" is the invention of philosophy not of science to start with and many aspects of philosophy cannot be proved/evidenced reliable by the scientific method.
 
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exchemist

Veteran Member
Can philosophy be proved by the scientific method?

I understand that all or many aspects of Philosophy cannot be proved / evidenced or demonstrated to be reliable by the Scientific Method.
Right, please?

Regards
___________
#355 paarsurrey
"Scientific Method" is the invention of philosophy not of science to start with and many aspects of philosophy cannot be proved/evidenced reliable by the scientific method.
You seem to be making two opposing and conflicting statements here. Which one do you mean?
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Maybe it's me, but I cannot make sense of the OP.

To me, the question(s) are like asking "In what way can the discharge of lightning, the distillation of water, and a car's gas mileage all be strummed on a banjo".

Is there some way to clarify what's being asked?
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Can philosophy be proved by the scientific method?

I understand that all or many aspects of Philosophy cannot be proved / evidenced or demonstrated to be reliable by the Scientific Method.
Right, please?

Regards
___________
#355 paarsurrey
"Scientific Method" is the invention of philosophy not of science to start with and many aspects of philosophy cannot be proved/evidenced reliable by the scientific method.

Scientific method : a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Scientific method : a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.
Does one mean that it is a process with which we know from the evident/s a non-evident, please? And thus it forms our evidence for that which was still non-evident, please?

Right, please?

Regards
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Does one mean that it is a process with which we know from the evident/s a non-evident, please? And thus it forms our evidence for that which was still non-evident, please?

Right, please?

Regards


It is exactly what the definition says it is.

The scientific method is an empirical method of acquiring knowledge that has characterized the development of science since at least the 17th century. It involves careful observation, applying rigorous skepticism about what is observed, given that cognitive assumptions can distort how one interprets the observation.​
Scientific method - Wikipedia
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Maybe it's me, but I cannot make sense of the OP.

To me, the question(s) are like asking "Can the discharge of lightning, the distillation of water, and a car's gas mileage all be strummed on a banjo".

Is there some way to clarify what's being asked?
One may like to read post #4 of our friend ChristineM who has observed sense of the OP. Right, please?
Well, how will one like to suggest me that I should revise the OP to make sense for one?

Regards
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Can philosophy be proved by the scientific method?

I understand that all or many aspects of Philosophy cannot be proved / evidenced or demonstrated to be reliable by the Scientific Method.
Right, please?

Regards
___________
#355 paarsurrey
"Scientific Method" is the invention of philosophy not of science to start with and many aspects of philosophy cannot be proved/evidenced reliable by the scientific method.

The simple answer is no.

The Scientific Method is not an invention of philosophy. Science actually evolved from empirical problem solving methods to find out 'what works' for human utility purposes and benefits.

Contemporary Scientific Method does involve what is Methodological Naturalism developed in its present form Popper as the process of the 'Falsification' of theories and hypothesis.This 'Philosophy of Science' developed as 'How to think about results and conclusion of empirical scientific methods which are based on more practical considerations of 'What works.';
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
You seem to be making two opposing and conflicting statements here. Which one do you mean?
Please mention the two opposing and or conflicting statements that one understood from the OP, to enable me to revise it, please. Right, please?

Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
The simple answer is no.

The Scientific Method is not an invention of philosophy. Science actually evolved from empirical problem solving methods to find out 'what works' for human utility purposes and benefits.

Contemporary Scientific Method does involve what is Methodological Naturalism developed in its present form Popper as the process of the 'Falsification' of theories and hypothesis.This 'Philosophy of Science' developed as 'How to think about results and conclusion of empirical scientific methods which are based on more practical considerations of 'What works.';
"'Philosophy of Science'"

If philosophy did not invent science then, why qualify science with philosophy, please?

Regards
 

`mud

Just old
Premium Member
Ahhhh...the quizzable wondering of the stuff in one's belly button,
there's no `scientific` question about it, is there ?

oh......there's a raison there!
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
It is exactly what the definition says it is.

The scientific method is an empirical method of acquiring knowledge that has characterized the development of science since at least the 17th century. It involves careful observation, applying rigorous skepticism about what is observed, given that cognitive assumptions can distort how one interprets the observation.​
Scientific method - Wikipedia
"definition"
And to which science discipline the definition/s belong, please?

Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Ahhhh...the quizzable wondering of the stuff in one's belly button,
there's no `scientific` question about it, is there ?

oh......there's a raison there!
Now I don't know French. Please elaborate it in a passage in easy English language as it is my second language, else, in Urdu or Punjabi. Right, please?

Regards
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Now I don't know French. Please elaborate it in a passage in easy English language as it is my second language, else, in Urdu or Punjabi. Right, please?

Regards

Works both ways

Et ce n'est pas français
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Well, how will one like to suggest me that I should revise the OP to make sense for one?

May I suggest something along these lines? That is, if I am at all understanding what you are trying to get at in the OP...

"Are there any truths (and/or facts) that have been arrived at independently by both philosophical methods of investigation and scientific methods of investigation? That is, have there been cases in which the methods have been consilient?"​

In my opinion, that might be about the best you can do, though I myself am not satisfied the question is a good one, even with my 'rephrasing' of it.

If you would prefer a less precise, but much simpler, question, then perhaps...

"Has a philosopher and a scientist ever arrived at the same conclusion about something while each was using the respective methods of their science or discipline?"​

I apologize for not being able to come up with anything better that those two questions.
 

`mud

Just old
Premium Member
Philosophy is the dreaming of possibilities
Science is the proving of them
 
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