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Can satan love?

questfortruth

questfortruth

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I am writing the name of satan with lowercase s because this is the dogma of my religious community, for it is written ``If the head of the house has been called Beelzebul, how much more the members of his household!'' Matthew 10:25.

Does satan love anything? Or does he hate everything? Does he love to sin? No. The satan hates sin, as do all sinners. The satan (and his ones) do not like to sin, but sin is attractive to him. There is a Bible verse about this when God tries to save Cain before Cain became the first murderer in the history of humankind: ``sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you must rule over it.'' Genesis 4:7.

John has replied: "The recent film-show "Lucifer" has convincingly shown that satan can indeed love."

To him I replied: "This is just a human, not Death and Cancer itself."

Here in the film is shown how satan's angels hate sinners: ``Dogma - The Business Massacre'',
``Dogma - Bus scene'' YouTube. It is known that satan has an infinite hatred for sinners. And the worse the sinner, the more hated he is to this evil spirit. And what shades of feeling does he have for absolute saints? Is it respect?


 
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questfortruth said:
I am writing the name of satan with lowercase s because this is the dogma of my religious community. Does satan love anything? Or does he hate everything? Does he love to sin? No. The satan hates sin, as do all sinners. The satan (and his ones) do not like to sin, but sin is attractive to him. There is a Bible verse about this when God tries to save Cain before Cain became the first murderer in the history of humankind: ``sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you must rule over it.'' Genesis 4:7.

John has replied: "The recent film-show "Lucifer" has convincingly shown that satan can indeed love."

To him I replied: "This is just a human, not Death and Cancer itself."
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To learn more about satan I suggest reading the book of Enoch. there is PDF somewhere online.

But primary property of satan is that he is haughty and doesn't repent.
Somewhere in epistles it says: "what do light and darkness have in common?" (nothing), therefore satan doesn't love.
 
Viker

Viker

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If you do not capitalize Satan, which satan? There's so many little satans. A little satan can be anything or anyone.

Yes, Satan is capable of profound and very deep love. For I am the same!
 
ajay0

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Satan in the Hindu-Buddhist equivalent, is Maya/Mara.

And Maya is just the undisciplined mind.

Krishna and Buddha states that the well-disciplined mind is one's best friend superior even to family, friends and relatives.

While the ill-disciplined mind is one's worst enemy superior to any external foe or enemy.

It is a man's own mind, not his enemy or foe, that lures him to evil ways. ~ Buddha

For him who has conquered the mind, the mind is the best of friends; but for one who has failed to do so, his very mind will be the greatest enemy. ~ Bhagavad Gita ( 6..6)
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ChristineM

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There are many satan's, I've unfortunately been involved with one, fortunately i got away from his clutches with the help of friends and he fled the country.

Love? Well he loved himself, he loved control, he loved to inflict anguish and pain.
 
VoidCat

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Satan is a title not a name. Means adversary. I guess it depends on the Satan we are talking of
 
questfortruth

questfortruth

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paradox

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Viker said:
So? You won't.

What's wrong with loving one's self?
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The opposite of loving your self is not loving your self which is not good,
therefore it's logical that loving yourself is not bad.

However what is wrong though is when you love yourself only and love nobody else, which is selfish love.
This is what is wrong with Satan, he loves himself only and hates everything else.
 
questfortruth

questfortruth

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paradox said:
The opposite of loving
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Viker said:
So? You won't.

What's wrong with loving one's self?
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It is known that satan has an infinite hatred for sinners. And the worse the sinner, the more hated he is to this evil spirit. And what shades of feeling does he have for absolute saints? Is it respect?
``But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.'' Romans 5:8.
 
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Satan loves people depending on what morals they take. He sees himself as the hero. His view of morality is inverted though, and so sees people believing in God's signs to be in need of being freed from falsehood. This is what he tells himself. Deep inside though he is full of hatred towards God's signs/chosen, and believers and only calls people to him out of malice to bring them to hell.

But no one can be that outwardly malicious so he has deceived himself he is the good hero and attempting to free humanity and Jinn from the order of the universe which he sees ruled by wrong people with wrong decisions and disbelieves in their God. He of course, still is aware of their power and capability. Even though he has never been able to stop God's punishment, he irrationally promises (and even lies to himself about it) that the final showdown will be different and that they will find a way to cancel heaven's plans, but God is truly powerful and there is no comparing God's forces with that of the devils and lost Jinn and sorcerers.
 
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Viker said:
So? You won't.

What's wrong with loving one's self?
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Love can mean compassion which is good. But it can also mean admiring oneself. The latter is dangerous, though some praise to the self is good and thanking oneself is good, it must be balanced with seeing it's woes and shortcomings, The latter should make us humble, and if we ever lose those traits, more grateful then prideful.
 
74x12

74x12

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questfortruth said:
I am writing the name of satan with lowercase s because this is the dogma of my religious community, for it is written ``If the head of the house has been called Beelzebul, how much more the members of his household!'' Matthew 10:25.

Does satan love anything? Or does he hate everything? Does he love to sin? No. The satan hates sin, as do all sinners. The satan (and his ones) do not like to sin, but sin is attractive to him. There is a Bible verse about this when God tries to save Cain before Cain became the first murderer in the history of humankind: ``sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you must rule over it.'' Genesis 4:7.

John has replied: "The recent film-show "Lucifer" has convincingly shown that satan can indeed love."

To him I replied: "This is just a human, not Death and Cancer itself."

Here in the film is shown how satan's angels hate sinners: ``Dogma - The Business Massacre'',
``Dogma - Bus scene'' YouTube. It is known that satan has an infinite hatred for sinners. And the worse the sinner, the more hated he is to this evil spirit. And what shades of feeling does he have for absolute saints? Is it respect?


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I disagree a bit. I think he hates the righteous the most because they remind him that he himself is a sinner. So in the case of Job ... Satan's whole goal was to turn the saint into a sinner and a blasphemer. This would have on some level justified satan himself. Because remember, Satan had everything in heaven but still chose to rebel and turn on God. So it really bothers him on a personal level to see someone like Job who refuses to revile God after all he's gone through.

Because what satan seeks is self justification. He's always trying to make himself look good at other's expense. We see the same phenomon in humans. People who hate themselves always try to tear others down who they see as doing better than them. This makes them feel better about themselves.

Not that I believe satan hates himself since he's too much the narcissist; but it still bothers him that other people are more righteous than he was because it under mines his whole premise and his whole argument. Which is apparently ... that God is injust and treated him(satan) unfairly. So of course he was right to rebel and sin against God. People like Job refute this reasoning because they remain faithful even though enduring more hardship than they should have endured if the world was fair.
 
74x12

74x12

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questfortruth said:
Does satan love anything? Or does he hate everything? Does he love to sin? No. The satan hates sin, as do all sinners. The satan (and his ones) do not like to sin, but sin is attractive to him. There is a Bible verse about this when God tries to save Cain before Cain became the first murderer in the history of humankind: ``sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you must rule over it.'' Genesis 4:7.

John has replied: "The recent film-show "Lucifer" has convincingly shown that satan can indeed love."
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He doesn't love his followers but he is good at pretending that he does. If he really loved them then he would point them to God. He despises them for being foolish and at the same time he appreciates them because they tickle his vanity. That is they remind him how "great" he is. Because they worship him and also because he managed to fool them; so of course that means he is much smarter than they are.
 
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