Can science disprove the existence of God?

[viole]

What is the common ancestor of humans and chimps that you have "a lot of clues about"? Dont you think its important to KNOW the origins? How do you know it even happened that way?

Again. Biology. Study the evidence and kill it. If you can.

Ciao

- viole

 

[Rapture Era]

My base point is standard biology, as we know it today So, get a book and get yourself a certain knowlege about it. Or find the weak points on it, you might win a Nobel prize. In case of the latter, I swear on my soul that I will invite you to dinner in the best restaurant in Stockholm.
But please don't tell me you believe life arose on earth 6000 years ago. It is difficult to rationally debate a margin of error of that size. It would be like debating someone who believes the earth is flat.

Ciao

- viole

It doesnt matter what I believe at this point about the earth and life 6000 years ago. Your base point is flawed to death. Here is why. This is from a well known biologist who is not a Christian. This is an excellent example of your biology today. Only 5 minutes

 

[ArtieE]

Why do you find the question odd? You are talking about chimps slitting from humans millions of years ago. How do you know this as fact? How do you know life started billions of years ago? What is your base point?

Have you considered reading a beginners book on genetics or evolution? Then we could avoid such basic questions.

 

[viole]

It doesnt matter what I believe at this point about the earth and life 6000 years ago. Your base point is flawed to death. Here is why. This is from a well known biologist who is not a Christian. This is an excellent example of your biology today. Only 5 minutes

He is not called Steve.

And he belongs to the Unification Church, whatever that is.

Ciao

- viole

 

[Shad]

The question is how did this life come to being? This is a huge assumption!

You can view it as an axiom if you doubt that this reality is real or a fact by basic observations. Are you alive? If no you have a major problem beyond evolution.

What I'm trying to bring to light is evolutionists should be concerned about its origins because it is the whole foundation of the theory. Without this knowledge, there is no foundation and the theory falls apart.

So you are doubting life exists while sitting in your chair responding to other people under the assumption that you exist and the people you reply to exist.... The foundation exist unless you are in deep denial about a great many things.

 

[SkepticThinker]

All claiming the origin of the information as from God. Darwin claims his information comes from observation but has never observed a new species come into being. Yet his book is titled Origin of Species, so if he made a thread on RF we would all laugh at him for a bit then move on to the next thread. Yet somehow it became science?

You should actually try reading the book.

 

[ArtieE]

It doesnt matter what I believe at this point about the earth and life 6000 years ago. Your base point is flawed to death. Here is why. This is from a well known biologist who is not a Christian. This is an excellent example of your biology today. Only 5 minutes

Here is an interesting article about the Cambrian Explosion.
Does the Cambrian Explosion pose a challenge to evolution?

 

[SkepticThinker]

I like bananas, it must be true. They don't really say anything other than make an authoritative statement they expect us to regard as truth. I don't believe it. It's a mountain of BS piled onto the original BS that Darwin dreamed up. As we can see, humans produce human offspring everytime. The evidence supports that we originated as humans, created by God, fully human.

You can view the evidence for yourself. There's a ton of it. You don't have to take anyone's word for it.

Darwin didn't "dream up" anything. He made careful observations and took measurements to back up an idea that existed long he ever lived.

To harp on Darwin at this point (150+ years later) is to ignore the mountains of evidence from multiple independent lines of research from all over the world that have all confirmed the theory of evolution since it was first officially proposed. To focus only on Darwin is to miss all the important discoveries (like genetic material for instance) that came after him.

P.S. Evolution doesn't claim that humans should produce anything other than humans. If you're under the impression that evolution states that a monkey one day gave birth to a human, or a dog gave birth to a cat or something, you've misunderstood

 

[SkepticThinker]

The bible is words, it says God created man.

What reason do we have to believe the Bible?

 

[SkepticThinker]

He did make man to look like no other creature! Man doesnt look like an ape! When someone sees you walking down the street do they say, hey look! There goes an ape? Dont be ridiculous!

Have you ever seen an ape???

 

[Rapture Era]

A

Again. Biology. Study the evidence and kill it. If you can.

Ciao

- viole

Again, you avoid the question.

 

[Rapture Era]

Have you ever seen an ape???

Yes I have, whats your point?

 

[SkepticThinker]

Yes I have, whats your point?

That it's obvious we're related to them, even just based on looks and anatomy alone. Never mind the genetic evidence.

 

[viole]

A

Again, you avoid the question.

Again, you avoid to read. Do you expect me to teach you the basics of biology? If you want, I can, but that is going to be a long thread, then.

Never had any biology classes before?

Ciao

- viole

 

[Rapture Era]

Here is an interesting article about the Cambrian Explosion.
Does the Cambrian Explosion pose a challenge to evolution?

This is put out by Biologos which is a theistic evolutionary belief. Basically they believe that God created everything we see today (which is true) but they believe God used a retarded way of doing it like molecules to man. That He wasnt powerful enough to create the universe and all life the way He said He did. They are calling Him a liar! God says death came through mans sin. This is why Jesus came to die. They are saying death came before man which is totally the opposite of what God says, and would eliminate the need for Jesus to come at all. Everyone has the same evidence on both side of this issue. It's how you interpret the evidence. Scientists know more today than ever before and the stance they once held to, which is to say evolution, is being chipped away by new science discoveries and these new science discoveries are pointing more toward intelligent design the deeper they look into cells and DNA molecules and the fine tuning of the universe.

 

[Rapture Era]

That it's obvious we're related to them, even just based on looks and anatomy alone. Never mind the genetic evidence.

So let me get this straight, you are saying as fact that we are related to apes based on similarities?

 

[ArtieE]

Its not nonsense Artie, its vital. If it didnt happen that way the evolutionist has nothing! Right?

What does "that way" mean?

 

[ArtieE]

This is put out by Biologos which is a theistic evolutionary belief.

Oh brother, you are supposed to have one and the same book aren't you? How is a poor atheist to keep track of all the different denominations and beliefs you people can manage to have based on one book?

 

[Rapture Era]

Again, you avoid to read. Do you expect me to teach you the basics of biology? If you want, I can, but that is going to be a long thread, then.

Never had any biology classes before?

Ciao

- viole

Biology, simply defined as:
The science of life or living matter in all its forms and phenomena, especially with reference to origin, growth, reproduction, structure, and behavior.
You fail to understand the basics yourself. You cannot explain ORIGIN, the very first step in basic biology much less any of the others such as growth, reproduction, structure and behavior. How would I expect you to intelligently teach anyone on the subject?

 

[Rapture Era]

What does "that way" mean?

Molecules to man.