Can science now say how it could be that God is eternal, if It exists.

[Aupmanyav]

No, this isn't an attempt to prove God. I'm just examining the proposition that if God does exist, IF...., then does it make any sense to say, as the Bible and other revealed texts claim, that God always was? I've claimed for God having always been is a proposition that's beyond human comprehension.

God is very well understood. We know what he eats, where he sleeps, with whom he associates, whom he does not like and what he will do to them when the time comes. He has sent sons, messengers, fairies, manifestations, mahdis, messiahs, prophets all the time, Quran says some 125,000 (I gather, though not sure). All this is clearly mentioned in the scriptures of various religions. But there is just one catch. It is all human imagination.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

The assumption of "I" is deep-seated and habitual, and largely unconscious. Identification with thoughts is a relatively superficial aspect.

This is like dealing with a bucket of worms......what and/or who does the assuming?

 

[Rick O'Shez]

This is like dealing with a bucket of worms......what and/or who does the assuming?

It's a good question to ask. Do you have an answer?

 

[Ben Dhyan]

It's a good question to ask. Do you have an answer?

The ego is the source of assumptions ...the ego the feeler of feelings...the ego self is the thinker of thoughts......the ego self identifies with the all the body's perceptions, feelings, and conceptions ...but when the mind is still and free from thoughts, all feelings, and all perceptions...there is no ego self identification with the body....then the mind is in a state of transcendence.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

The ego is the source of assumptions ...the ego the feeler of feelings...the ego self is the thinker of thoughts......the ego self identifies with the all the body's perceptions, feelings, and conceptions ...but when the mind is still and free from thoughts, all feelings, and all perceptions...there is no ego self identification with the body....then the mind is in a state of transcendence.

Temporarily perhaps.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Temporarily perhaps.

Yes of course... but this is what I've been saying forever..

 

[paarsurrey]

Can science now say how it could be that God is eternal, if It exists.
Nature has been creator by G-d. One attribute of G-d is Hidden :
[57:4] He is the First and the Last, and the Manifest and the Hidden, and He knows all things full well.
[57:5] He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in six periods, then He settled Himself on the Throne. He knows what enters the earth and what comes out of it, and what comes down from heaven and what goes up into it. And He is with you wheresoever you may be. And Allah sees all that you do.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=57&verse=0
Science deals in only physical and material things, so science cannot detect Hidden G-d from Manifest in everything with his attributes. Whenever science will try it, science will fail miserably and will become gibberish. Please
And it is sign of G-d. Right? Please

What period is reflected from "now" as mentioned in the topic? Please
Anybody, please

Regards

 

[ThePainefulTruth]

What period is reflected from "now" as mentioned in the topic? Please
Anybody, please

Can science now say how it could be that God is eternal, if It exists.

Now is in the recent few years when the most irrational interpretations of quantum mechanics (Copenhagen, Many Worlds) finally faltered, and the only one that explains all quantum weirdness (the Transactional Interpretation) finally became ascendant. But the now is not important, the how is.