Well, excuse the hell out of me! Please, Oh mighty one, forgive me for throwing you off guard as a wanna be magician.
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Can self evolution involve massive personal pain?
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Well, excuse the hell out of me! Please, Oh mighty one, forgive me for throwing you off guard as a wanna be magician.
Knowledge Gourmet
gourmet of knowledge
I was in a situation very similar to yours, OP.
Despite initial discomfort, my life is now better without the added complications my "friend" dragged me into.
Despite initial discomfort, my life is now better without the added complications my "friend" dragged me into.
Knowledge Gourmet
gourmet of knowledge
Perhaps you should try and look in the mirror before sarcastically calling me Almighty, mr "I'm decades ahead of all of you and need to remind myself of it in every post". You're a 40+ year old data enterer who can't even create his own system and instead relies on Aquino and deifies him. Then you repeat his teachings like a fundy mantra everytime there's a slightly appropriate place to bring it up. Insult me all you want, it speaks volumes.
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ScottySatan
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Please understand that I am almost a sociopath and I can't understand other peoples' emotional outbursts. And I also might have totally missed your point.
BUT
If it were me, and it were several hours to a day or more later, the big question in my mind would be...
Is this really as I just described, or is it a religious re-interperative excuse for bad behaviour, shifting the blame away?
The part about your angry response not being as bad as it once was can be explained by a lot of things, the most likely being that you're older and more mature.
BUT
If it were me, and it were several hours to a day or more later, the big question in my mind would be...
Is this really as I just described, or is it a religious re-interperative excuse for bad behaviour, shifting the blame away?
The part about your angry response not being as bad as it once was can be explained by a lot of things, the most likely being that you're older and more mature.
What's wrong with being 40+? What's wrong with being 20? With being 80?
As for making a system, some people do well following a system that is laid out, others do well wandering. Each has its own problems and its own advantages. Individuals are all different, and fortunately, there is a wide variety of ways for individuals to approach spirituality and growth.
As for quoting others, hey, some people are better communicators than others. I often quote simply because it simply communicates the idea better than I could. (Many people find my economy of words quite nebulous, for instance.
) For those who follow a system, the system gives a common language for those who follow that system by which they can communicate complex ideas in few words. For heretics like me, communication can be difficult, especially if I'm unfamiliar with the "iconoclastic dialect" being used. But heck, I am working on trying to understand westernspeak. Still a work in progress. If you make your own system, it is like making your own language. Others may not be able to understand you.
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And older and more mature doesn't fit under self evolution?
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Oh don't dumb it down haha, just trying to get a point across to a fundy. Can we either get back on track or let the thread die?
Alright. Is age a good gauge as to how much pain an individual has experienced? Has the individual used this pain experience as an opportunity to evolve? This is where it can get rather cloudy. It all depends upon the individual, and individuals vary.
I thought he meant mentally older. Age is not at all capable of judging pain.
Doors I do apologize if my original post came off as condescending that was not my intent, I was actually agreeing with your point.
I really don't know what my age or how I make a living has to do with anything here. I've never said I thought I was better than anyone. And I hardly ever bring up the fact that I have studied and practiced Magic for over 25 years.
I am proud to have learned from such distinguished Magicians as Aquino, Webb, Flowers, La Vey, Crowley, and others. I apply the knowledge I have acquired in my own way, but I am not out to re-invent the wheel. We all learn from the teachings of others. I ask you, how does my practice of what I understand to be Setian Magic make me a "fundamentalist"? You have said that I have ruined the reputation of "Setianism" on the RF. I don't think so, I have stated my own understanding of that philosophy pretty well in my time here on RF. You are the only one who has ever objected to it, and your not even nor have you ever been a member of the Temple of Set. Quite frankly, when it comes to matters regarding the ToS you sir don't know what the hell you're talking about. You may think of me as a thorn in your side Doors, which is regrettable, but this forum does not belong only to you and your opinions... this thorn is sticking around for a while.
For ever in the Black Flame of Set!
/Adramelek\
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Luke Morningstar
Mourning Stalker
Average is a lie. But the more it hurts, the harder you are trying, and that makes you an above average person. Many people embrace a path that lets them avoid pain. That forces them to put their pain into other people.
It's always an option to ease up on yourself. However, one way to do that is forgive yourself. You are a flawed human taking on a next to impossible challenge - evolve yourself when there's no manual for you. Forgive yourself. Look at your mistakes with compassion. Hold yourself accountable, but with understanding and compassion.
By doing that, you will discover the manual to make yourself better. Every new insight is going to feel great. Then, you'll run into a new problem and you'll want to feel like none of your effort ever matters.
But listen, as long as you never give up on yourself, there is no mistake you can make that you cannot recover from. As long as you are making mistakes and learning something from them, you are growing.
Your path will last your entire life. The hardest part is walking it with open eyes.