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Can vegetarianism change the world?

Shaul

Shaul

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The assumption that eating meat requires killing or mistreating animals is a false premise.
 
IndigoChild5559

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Jeremiah Ames said:
It was hard for me specifically. Many people might not find it difficult, but I like sweets.
I got tired of cauliflower ice cream, and black bean brownies.
I can eat an obscene amount of wonderful desserts now, and I’ve lost 24 pounds since I started the new diet less than two months ago.

But I did do very well with weight loss as well as my blood test numbers, on the vegan diet.
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I twice tried being vegetarian. My body cannot handle the carbs. It made me diabetic. In order to lose the weight and become non-diabetic again, I had to adopt an very low carb, high protein diet, as per my doctor. There is no way that I can get the amount of protein that my body needs without meat.

I don't think everyone has the same kind of body--different diets work well for different people.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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IndigoChild5559 said:
I twice tried being vegetarian. My body cannot handle the carbs. It made me diabetic. In order to lose the weight and become non-diabetic again, I had to adopt an very low carb, high protein diet, as per my doctor. There is no way that I can get the amount of protein that my body needs without meat.

I don't think everyone has the same kind of body--different diets work well for different people.
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Vegetarianism does not appear to be for everyone. I do not mind cutting down on meat a bit, but I do not think that I could go without either.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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Secret Chief said:
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So one day a man is driving along in his car, and he gets a flat tire. Now, luckily, he gets the flat right in front of a farm. So he gets out of his car, walks over to the farmhouse, knocks on the door, and the farmer steps out. Now, the man starts talking to him about his flat tire, but he can't help but look over at the fields and see a three-legged pig. So he finishes up telling the farmer about his flat tire and he says: "Oh, by the way, how'd that pig over there lose its leg?"

The farmer says, "that pig, over there?"

"Yep."

"In the fields?"

"Mhm."

"With three legs?"

"Uh-huh."

"Why," the farmer announces, "that there's a hero pig! Yessir, that pig saved my life. You see, one day in the winter I was out fishing in the pond, when I fell right through the ice! And that pig comes rushing down the hill, dives right into the freezing water, and drags me out. Saved my life."

"Wow," the man says, "what a brave pig to dive into that water, save your life, and lose a leg in the process!"

"What?" says the farmer, "no, no, no, that's not how he lost his leg!"

"Then how'd the pig lose its leg?"

"You mean that old pig?"

"Uh, yeah."

"That one grazing over there?"

"Yep."

"The one I just told you about?"

"That's the one."

"Why, that pig's a hero pig, I tell ya! Saved my life! Y'see, one day the chicken coop caught on fire, and that there hero pig bolted in, pulled me out, pulled the chickens out, and by God he saved all the eggs, too."

"Man, that pig really is a hero, to save you, the chickens, the eggs, and lose a leg while doing so."

"Pfft, that ain't how it lost its leg."

"Then how'd that pig lose its leg?"

"That one?"

"Yeah, yeah."

"The one with one missing leg?"

"Yeah, that's the one."

"The one you're pointing to?"

"That's the one."

"Why, that there pig's a hero pig! One day two robbers broke into my house and stuck my wife and I up! And just as they were about to pull the trigger to shoot us, by God that pig came barreling in, knocked the gun away, and bit the fiends until they were off the farm!"

"My God, that is a truly brave, noble, and heroic pig, to save you and your wife and get its leg shot off in the process."

"That ain't the way it lost its leg!"

"Oh, come on! It dragged you out of a pond, saved you from a fire, chased away your would-be killers, how on Earth did that pig lose its leg?"

"Oh, you mean that pig?"

"Yes, that pig."

"That one over there?"

"Yup."

"You sure?"

"Yes, yes."

"Well, you see, a pig that good, you can't eat all at once."
 
Ben Dhyan

Ben Dhyan

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Xavier Graham SA said:
I believe in literal karma. Whenever an animal is killed or mistreated for the sake of human consumption, that creates negative karma. Humanity suffers as a result of negative karma.
I believe that the purpose of mankind is to become collectively enlightened, which would end the cycle of life, and bringing about the end times, whatever those times entail. I believe collective vegetarianism is a necessary step towards this end.
What would happen if everyone went vegetarian/vegan? What would the net gain be? in relation to all the negative karma we would no longer incur through systematic animal abuse.
Perhaps much of the suffering that humans face is a direct result of the suffering we force on billions of animals on a daily basis. Are we naive enough to think that we don’t suffer consequences for the suffering we cause other species?
I’m a meat eater, guilty of taking part in animal cruelty. But what if myself, and all of you, stopped taking part in animal cruelty? Would the world change for the better? I think so.
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You are a physical expression of God in the physical world, your karma, regardless of what you eat will continue until your spiritual realization of heavenly existence.
 
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