PureX
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In this case they did not change their mind, it was changed for them by circumstance. So this is not a relevant scenario to this question.Can we change our mind about what we believe?
@PureX said that one CAN change their mind, but they won't because they don't want to deny their current understanding of 'what is'. #523
I disagree. One CAN change their mind, and they sometimes do, if they get new information that causes them to change their mind.
Yes, I agree with this. And it is the fundamental problem with belief.However, if they don't change their mind, it is because they truly believe that what they believe is true according to their current understanding
Believing can and often does become a self-righteous bias so strong that we simply will not let go of it. And therefor we claim that we can't let go of it, because that's how it feels to us. But in truth, it's just a righteousness bias that we have become so comfortable with and so dependent upon that we simply will not doubt it's presumed righteousness. And because we will not doubt it, we feel like we cannot possibly change our understanding of it. But we could actually choose to doubt it, at any time, and thereby recognize other viable cognitive possibilities. We just won't, and therefor think we can't.
It's similar to an addiction. Can an addict stop using their drug of choice? Yes, but no. They can, but they will not, because they beleve that they MUST HAVE IT to live. Even as it is killing them.It is not that they won’t change their mind, as if they are stubbornly refusing to change their mind, it is that they have no reason to change their mind.
This is the desperate trap of the "true believer". And why they become so unteachable, and unchangeable. It's the trap that the religious zealots fall into. And it's the trap that the 'scientism cult' has fallen into. A trap that not even reason or reality can unlock, because they simpy will not let it.
Because belief is a bias, and if we don't understand this, and respect it, that belief can become a very dangerous cognitive trap.Why should anyone deny that what they believe is true?
They shouldn't. What we need to do is stop falling into this bias of "belief". So that we can keep an open mind and heart toward our experience of the world. But that will mean we have to humble ourselves, and accept that there is a great deal we simply do not know. And this is scary for people who have been living with the comfortable delusion that they can know things.Conversely, why should anyone accept any belief as true if they don’t believe it is true?
They should accept the fact that God CAN exist. And that they will never have the evidence to prove otherwise. Because that is the truth of the moment.Why should atheists accept that God exists when they see no evidence for God’s existence?
Of course they are. And they are so intent on maintaining this phony self-righteous stance, even in the face of the obvious irrationality of it, that they lie, constantly, about it. They are no different from the religious zealots that likewise insist on the righteousness of their stance even in the face of the total irrationality and dishonesty of it. It's the disease of the "true believer". It drives the same result whether one chooses gods or no gods. And there are many other manifestation of this biased "belief" syndrome; people who believe that the whole of humanity is their innate enemy and that they must fight and compete with everyone for their very survival. People that believe their innate value (and everyone else's) depends upon how much material wealth they can accumulate. People who believe drugs or alcohol of sex or food or gambling, or dangerous behavior, or whatever else, are the only things that make life worth living. And on and on and on. We humans fall into the "true believer" trap in all kinds of ways. And we fight to stay there even when it's destroying our minds, and often our bodies. And we think we cannot possibly change our "truth". Whatever it is.I do not think that atheists are stubbornly refusing to believe in God.
But we can.
Of course they see no evidence. They define it out of existence even before they look for it. That's the bias of the "true believer". Plenty of theists do the same thing.I take them at their word when they say that they see no evidence for God.
The problem is the BELIEF TRAP, not God.It is not that they won’t believe in God, it is that they can’t believe in God because they see no evidence for God.
Well, it's your bias. And you could humble yourself at any time, and let go of it.The same holds true for me. It is not that I won’t disbelieve in God, it is that I can’t disbelieve in God because I see evidence for God.
That doesn't mean you'd have to deny the existence of God. Just that you'd have to accept that you simply don't know. The belief trap is all about pretending to know what we don't actually know. It's that pretense that we become addicted to, and then will not give up.