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Can we remove the dogma from science?

leibowde84

Veteran Member
Isn't it a poor performance of science?Always taking the previous ones as fake/false, and findings the new ones that are also to be found false/fake later on, very unscientific.
Regards
Not at all. Progress is impossible if theories or beliefs cannot be questioned. For example, there can be no progress made in regards to Islamic beliefs and what is claimed in the Quran, as it is taken as absolutely true. Scientific understanding follows evidence, and that's it. Our understanding progresses only because of our willingness to accept new evidence and change that understanding. Islam is lacking in that respect, imho.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Not at all. Progress is impossible if theories or beliefs cannot be questioned. For example, there can be no progress made in regards to Islamic beliefs and what is claimed in the Quran, as it is taken as absolutely true. Scientific understanding follows evidence, and that's it. Our understanding progresses only because of our willingness to accept new evidence and change that understanding. Islam is lacking in that respect, imho.
Religion deals in the absolute truth about life, science deals in temporary phenomena of life, only.
Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
That is why Islam is lacking compared to science. Science is open to being wrong. Islam (and the Quran in particular) is considered to be the word of God in the opinion of Muslims, so they refuse to even acknowledge the fact that the Quran might be wrong about some things.
Quran is not wrong, never.
Peoples understanding of Quran could be wrong, and the wrong understanding could be corrected wherever needed.
Regards
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
Science is not about dogma, its about facts, so yes its religion that needs to grow up, and drop its dogma that they can truly understand science.
 

buddhamaster

New Member
Dogmas? Unless you use the label "dogma" to mean the physical laws such as gravity, magnetism, radiation, motion, atomic theory, molecular theory, thermodynamics, chemistry, quantum theory and concepts and ideas such as mathematics, geology, plate tectonics, astronomy, big bang theory, abiogenesis, evolution, genetics, life sciences, etc.
Science is a system of methods and procedures, demonstrable and verifiable by anyone who wants to investigate it's effect on reality without preconceive doctrines or dogmas or creeds by sacred grace and faith from a holy book by a supernatural deity who supposedly created the universe. The holy books supposedly contains knowledge, truths and wisdom, the undeniable words of g0d is to be accepted without questions on pure faith alone. But how did the transcendental entity that exist outside of space and time manage make his words to appear in the holy books? But that is another mysterious story. If you believe that g0d created the earth 6,000 years ago, it is not necessary to there. But is the earth is 4.5 billions of years old, there is a little problem to reconcile with. Where was g0d before humans appeared to roam the surface of the earth? Did g0d created the universe than went in hiding or recused himself till humans appeared on earth to write holy books. Did he find ways to reveal himself in prehistoric fossils and geologic stratas?
 
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