-
Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.
Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:- Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
- Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
- Access to private conversations with other members.
We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!
Can you believe in the infallabilty of the bible?
- Thread starter gseeker
- Start date
There's another thread just like this that was posted tonight. As I said there these problems aren't even the biggest issue. The biggest issue is that there is no reason to believe scripture is completely true and trustworthy in the first place. To do so requires you to use circular reasoning or blind acceptance.
weirdfish0
New Member
I think that first of all, you musn't understand all of its parts literally. Bible was written a long time ago and in a way that people living in those times would get it. You must take this fact into account because otherwise you may misjudge some parts of Bible, especially the ones from Old Testament. And then there's all this hermeneutics thing and people who have all historical and anthropological knowledge that is needed in order to interpret Bible properly (+evolution of language etc...) So a common reader, one who is not a specialist in fields I mentioned, should be understanding while reading the Bible and aware of what I have just written.
Agree.
I suspect that someone might bemefit from a remedial math class. :yes:
The Bible is just as acurate and factual as the other great collection of stories throughout history, Grimms Fairie Tales
I'll bet you haven't read either, have you.
Anything man has touched is not perfect IMHO.
gseeker
conflicted constantly
Sorry, I was starting that thread thinking of the new testament of Jesus but you are correct it is 300,000 to 400,000 errors between the old testament and the new. Source book mis quoting Jesus.
Most of those errors you mention don't change the context of what is said. A story copied by hand thousands of times doesn't mean the copies were based on real stories, it just means the stories were important enough to copy thousands of times.
Trey of Diamonds
Well-Known Member
Can I? Yes
Do I? No
Do I? No
People are and always have been human (no duh, right?) so there are bound to be human errors- but the Bible isn't about individual verses but about the "feel" of each book in the Bible. I didn't just read a line here and there in my school text books- but entire chapters.
Which is why I don't file my bibles in the circular filing cabinet.People are and always have been human (no duh, right?) so there are bound to be human errors- but the Bible isn't about individual verses but about the "feel" of each book in the Bible. I didn't just read a line here and there in my school text books- but entire chapters.
Many people believe every word in the bible is the infallable word of God. Seeing how no translation or revision is perfect, I take exception to this claim. What I find even more interesting is what is not in the bible.
Having any group of people picking and choosing what stayed and what left is troublesome to me.
It is an acient text with much wisdom and guidance. Like you, I try to absorb the spirit of the message and not get hung up with every little word.
The thing is, whole religions are founded on a few scriptures.
I look at how people live their lives and if their religion makes them a better person or not. I judge their religion accordingly.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
People are and always have been human (no duh, right?) so there are bound to be human errors- but the Bible isn't about individual verses but about the "feel" of each book in the Bible. I didn't just read a line here and there in my school text books- but entire chapters.
Maybe this is why Y'shua never commanded us to read and/or abide by the book any way.
Rocky S
Christian Goth
I believe God is able to preserve his word. These questions can cause major conflicts with in christianity as a whole. Most of those that argue the infallibility of the bible do it so they can pick and choose which theology best suits them. like individuals that say I believe Paul was a false apostle or I believe the gnostic gospels are inspired or those that argue 1John 5:7 was added or taking the definite article out of certain scriptures like in John 1:1, so the divinity of Christ can be rejected. Now I do believe there are erroneous bible translation out there. But, I am not going to call them out by name unless asked. I used to read and study out of those translation for years until I stared realizing the agenda of these translations. As Christians we must believe that God can and did preserve his written word. And understand this; those that claim things were added and it wasn't in the original usually claim that because of there own agendas.
gseeker
conflicted constantly
First despite the fact that it might cause problems in the Christian church is that no reason not to study and research the Bible to the best of your ability to obtain a better understanding of your God? If people have a crisis of faith because of that, honestly is that your problem? If a simple question can cause someone problems in their faith it is likely because they aren't well founded in there faith.You also question a persons motivation for claiming such a thing but maybe they claim such a thing because it is historical fact. You also mention certain translations you feel are not as good as others but in that respect maybe you should just read it in ancient Hebrew, Arabic, and Greek because you will only ever get limited understanding of gods word by reading it in any other language than the original. As for your statement that God would not allow someone to change the essence of the Scripture, why not, God gave men free will.