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"Canada Bans Assault Weapons; People 'Deserve More Than Thoughts and Prayers' ”

epronovost

Well-Known Member
No doubt but it's Canada.

Another free world country headed down the ******r. Nobody's going to mention it here, but I know for a fact there are plenty of Canadians not happy about it. I just hope they don't turn into another UK of which by the way, I don't consider a free country anymore.

I doubt this will shift Canada up or down the democary index. The move has a wide support in Canada something in the 60% of approbation if memory serves me right. Canada's democracy score had improve a little bit last year, but we lost a rank and sit with Danemark at 7th.

PS: The UK is at 14th and the US is at 25, both were stable from last year, but are in a slump since the early 2000's.

Actually after checking on it. 80% of Canadians support the ban on assault-style rifles and about 65% support a ban on handguns too.

Four-in-five Canadians support complete ban on civilian possession of assault style weapons - Angus Reid Institute

With such popularity, there is very little chance there will be an effective opposition to it.
 
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TransmutingSoul

One Planet, One People, Please!
Premium Member
knee jerk reaction

Your signature line would suggest to me that they are the people that will do something for their country, the ones that get rid of weapons.

Then the next step is "It is not for him to pride himself who loveth his own country, but rather for him who loveth the whole world. The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens'.

Those citizens that love the world will also get rid of arms.
Regards Tony
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I doubt this will shift Canada up or down the democary index. The move has a wide support in Canada something in the 60% of approbation if memory serves me right. Canada's democracy score had improve a little bit last year, but we lost a rank and sit with Danemark at 7th.

PS: The UK is at 14th and the US is at 25, both were stable from last year, but are in a slump since the early 2000's.
Well like I said many times in threads I'm basically a bottom-line person.

I would like to see actual results and to see how things work out over the course of time.

I can't argue over something if people are happy and satisfied with a government that they have.

Personally I don't have much of a use for guns myself. The only thing I like using guns for is skeet shooting and target shooting, with the obvious side benefit of security if I'm ever faced with lethal force.

I remember when Canada pretty much restricted long rifles and such, and still remember the protesting over it. My friend used to go from the States to Canada to hunt game and would bring his guns over the border back in the good old days, and now the red tape is so immense he just doesn't do it anymore.

There's been some huge shifts in free world countries now where freedom is really becoming a focus and a concern.

Especially in light of terrorism and now the virus.

But one thing I know for certain, if people are happy who am I to say it's not working for them?

I do wish Canada the best though because it is a beautiful and great country which I think is a mirror image of the United States in terms of freedom and autonomy. I would hate to see that destroyed.
 

epronovost

Well-Known Member
I do wish Canada the best though because it is a beautiful and great country which I think is a mirror image of the United States in terms of freedom and autonomy. I would hate to see that destroyed.

Actually by that metric alone, civic liberties, Canada is far more liberal than the US whose liberalism is surprisingly low.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Actually by that metric alone, civic liberties, Canada is far more liberal than the US whose liberalism is surprisingly low.
For all the time I spent in Canada, I find the nation to be a bit restrictive for my taste but in terms of liberalism, at least the Canadian way is still platable and definitely better than the US implementation of liberalism.

I agree with you there.
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
See, I knew it. Sanity does exist on the North American Continent.
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It's just a matter of getting north of Michigan.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
knee jerk reaction
No, it was in the works already.

The COVID-19 crisis just moved it to the back burner (until the shooting moved it to the front burner again). It was still supposed to happen this year before the shooting happened.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
No doubt but it's Canada.

Another free world country headed down the ******r. Nobody's going to mention it here, but I know for a fact there are plenty of Canadians not happy about it. I just hope they don't turn into another UK of which by the way, I don't consider a free country anymore.
In general, I consider Americans much less free than Canadians... even with the new firearm regulations.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
No doubt but it's Canada.

Another free world country headed down the ******r. Nobody's going to mention it here, but I know for a fact there are plenty of Canadians not happy about it. I just hope they don't turn into another UK of which by the way, I don't consider a free country anymore.
Perhaps, but as a proud and lifelong Canadian myself, first I am delighted with the new restrictions, and second, I don't actually know anybody who disagrees -- even though you say (without naming any) that there are "many."

What's truly interesting, though, is that the most conservative newspaper that I read every day doesn't even bother to mention it! Not a word. It's like, "yeah, who cares?"
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
The scary thing is loyal to whom?
Canada is a parliamentary democracy based on the Westminster model. As such, the party with the second most seats in the house is referred to as "her Majesty's loyal opposition." They are loyal, in other words, to the nation, as embodied by the monarch. It is, after all, possible to be loyal while holding a different political vision.
 
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Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Anything that restricts or takes away a person's individual freedom should be called out.

That includes right-wing greed yeah, but keep in mind the left is clearly guilty of that as well.
Anything? So when your individual freedom to burn down somebody else's house, or rape their daughter (or son!) is taken away, that should be called out?

And as near as I can tell, most conservative Americans don't believe that anyway. For example, they object strenuously to the right of some people to marry, or women to have control over their own bodies. So what you really mean to say, although you didn't, is that "Anything that restricts or takes a way a person's individual freedom that I approve of should be called out."
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I do wish Canada the best though because it is a beautiful and great country which I think is a mirror image of the United States in terms of freedom and autonomy.
They tend to have it better in those regards. Some much better that not only are they ahead in civil rights, their regulated market has produced a more free market than America (according to CATO). They don't deny evolution like America, they have healthcare, there's no real "mirror image" between us.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
They tend to have it better in those regards. Some much better that not only are they ahead in civil rights, their regulated market has produced a more free market than America (according to CATO). They don't deny evolution like America, they have healthcare, there's no real "mirror image" between us.
I can certainly tell you that nothing in the world would make me wish to give up Canada and become an American. (By the same token, my best friend was born in Schenectady NY, and lived the majority of his life and work in the US -- but is now a happy, proud Canadian, having recently taken the oath of citizenship. And he says he would never go back.)
 
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