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[Revoltingest]

According to the supreme court, it was a legal check point.

Setting up checkpoints is legal. They can ask
whatever they want in a consensual encounter.
But that doesn't mean that they can legally
enforce their orders to answer.

 

[We Never Know]

Setting up checkpoints is legal. They can ask
whatever they want in a consensual encounter.
But that doesn't mean that they can enforce
their orders to answer.
What decision required people to comply
with random checks 35 miles from the border?

In your video the lady says the supreme court allows border patrol to set up check points up to 100 miles away from the border and ask questions without warrants.

 

[Revoltingest]

In your video the lady says the supreme court allows border patrol to set up check points up to 100 miles away from the border and ask questions without warrants.

The news lady says so, eh.
I'm sure she's a constitutional scholar.

They're allowed to do it.
That doesn't mean you're required to answer or allow
warrantless searches. It's different when actually at
the border.
It would be absurd to give cops the power to require
answering intrusive questions, & be subject to
warrantless searches in the 100 mile border limit
because many states, including MI, are entirely
within that limit. We'd have no 4th Amendment
rights at all.

Know Your Rights | 100 Mile Border Zone | ACLU

The Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution protects people from random and arbitrary stops and searches. Although the federal government claims the power to conduct certain kinds of warrantless stops within 100 miles of the U.S. border, important Fourth Amendment protections still apply. This...

www.aclu.org

DUI checkpoints are similar, ie, you can refuse.

 

[We Never Know]

Setting up checkpoints is legal. They can ask
whatever they want in a consensual encounter.
But that doesn't mean that they can legally
enforce their orders to answer.

No she didnt have to answer. She wasted a lot of her time(didn't the video say 90 minutes)by not answering.
I would have said yes and been 100 miles further down the road lol

 

[Revoltingest]

No she didnt have to answer. She wasted a lot of her time(didn't the video say 90 minutes)by not answering.
I would have said yes and been 100 miles further down the road lol

One can save time by complying with unlawful orders.
But there's also something to be said for resisting
an intrusive government that oversteps its authority.
Some people just bend over & spread'm when
ordered. Others resist tyranny. The choice is yours.

Note to staff:
I'm advocating legal behavior when refusing to
obey unlawful orders. This is within the rules.

 

[John53]

So this happened in 2018 when I went there. Upon arrival at the airport:

Q: What is the purpose of your visit?
A: For a wedding
Q: Who's getting married ?

So they speak this rudely to people coming for tourism or backpacking? Why does it matter who is getting married?

Q: How much money do you have on you ?
A: $XYZ

I had well within the legal limits so why are they asking the exact amount ?

I then went to the USA and returned to Canada via border crossing. Here's round 2:

Q: Where are you going?
A: Ontario
Q: Who are you staying with?
A: Uncle and Auntie
Q: Did you go through the customs office upon initial arrival (I had a British passport)
A: Yes
Q: Why are you crossing by car?

So backpackers are not welcome ? Why does it matter if I entered by a car or a plane.

And the cherry on the cake: I HAD AN ESTA!!!

Not impressed with Canada at all: it was so much easier getting into America. More to see and do in the US of A

Never been to Canada but have been to the U.S. several times and have found it depends on the customs/immigration person, some are friendly and some are rude, most are indifferent and are just going through the motions waiting for knock off time.

The easiest borders I've crossed were Fiji, New Caledonia and Vanuatu, just walked in, didn't see any officials going in or out. All had an address on the wall of an office you could go to if you wanted your passport stamped. I didn't bother because there was a fee, about $4 AUD I think.

 

[sun rise]

Never been to Canada but have been to the U.S. several times and have found it depends on the customs/immigration person, some are friendly and some are rude, most are indifferent and are just going through the motions waiting for knock off time.

Exactly. And a few will use what little power they truly have to lord it over those subject to their whims.

 

[ronki23]

Around here they will kill you if you
carry drugs.

Another reason i'm not a fan of Singapore

 

[ronki23]

So, you think it is rude for immigration officials to ask people entering their country the reason for their visit? And when you "for wedding," you think it is rude to ask "who is getting married?" Is it not possible that that was nothing more than a friendly question that you just misinterpreted?

Because it shouldn't matter who is getting married. What's wrong with coming for tourism? Why not leave it at that?

 

[ronki23]

What matters is if you don't have quick answers to basic questions.




Customs officers generally want to make sure that visitors have enough funds to pay for their expenses during their visit.

If someone doesn't have enough money for their trip, this can be a sign that something fishy is going on (e.g. that they're coming to work illegally).




Border guards are responsible for determining travellers' real trip purposes. Unusual activity attracts their attention and prompts questions.



ESTA is an American process for travel to the USA. Canada is not the USA.


And the grapes were probably sour anyway.

If you want to split hairs I had an ETA which is Canadian equivalent of ESTA.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

If you want to split hairs I had an ETA which is Canadian equivalent of ESTA.

So?

 

[YmirGF]

So this happened in 2018 when I went there. Upon arrival at the airport:

Q: What is the purpose of your visit?
A: For a wedding
Q: Who's getting married ?

So they speak this rudely to people coming for tourism or backpacking? Why does it matter who is getting married?

Q: How much money do you have on you ?
A: $XYZ

I had well within the legal limits so why are they asking the exact amount ?

I then went to the USA and returned to Canada via border crossing. Here's round 2:

Q: Where are you going?
A: Ontario
Q: Who are you staying with?
A: Uncle and Auntie
Q: Did you go through the customs office upon initial arrival (I had a British passport)
A: Yes
Q: Why are you crossing by car?

So backpackers are not welcome ? Why does it matter if I entered by a car or a plane.

And the cherry on the cake: I HAD AN ESTA!!!

Not impressed with Canada at all: it was so much easier getting into America. More to see and do in the US of A

Unlike in America, Canadians care about border security, for the most part. I'm happy to hear Customs was on it's toes and asked pertinent questions to would be travellers. Do you think Canada should adopt the "open border" policy the USA has in place on the southern border? I understand they do not ask would be travellers very much upon their entry.

There is another side to this. These are very routine questions designed to get a response. If you get angry or nervous the customs officers may well interpret that as a red flag and decide to take a closer look at you. (Like, seriously, who get's bent out of shape over a couple of simple quesstions?)

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Because it shouldn't matter who is getting married. What's wrong with coming for tourism? Why not leave it at that?

Do you think border and customs officials should not bother asking anybody anything? Do you think that would be good for your own border and customs officials? Or do you suppose they actually have a job to do, and part of that job might just be asking questions?

 

[YmirGF]

Because it shouldn't matter who is getting married. What's wrong with coming for tourism? Why not leave it at that?

I know this may be a novel idea but the reality is that people LIE.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I've been to Canada multiple times and never had any unpleasantness or rudeness. But of course dumping on a nation because of the behavior of a few is what the internet thrives on.

I had a female customs officer once screaming at me to give my name which sounded similar to a trucking company name. Couldn't convince her that it was my real name. She was screaming better than my Drill Sgt in basic at me. .

I call her Dirty Alice now, and yep, she still scares me ******** to this day. *grin*

The male officers were all helpful at the crossing I frequented and never really had any major issues.

 

[Stevicus]

Unlike in America, Canadians care about border security, for the most part. I'm happy to hear Customs was on it's toes and asked pertinent questions to would be travellers. Do you think Canada should adopt the "open border" policy the USA has in place on the southern border? I understand they do not ask would be travellers very much upon their entry.

There is another side to this. These are very routine questions designed to get a response. If you get angry or nervous the customs officers may well interpret that as a red flag and decide to take a closer look at you. (Like, seriously, who get's bent out of shape over a couple of simple quesstions?)

Canada doesn't have a wall. There are open areas where someone could easily slip in, and the Canadians wouldn't be the wiser.

 

[YmirGF]

Canada doesn't have a wall. There are open areas where someone could easily slip in, and the Canadians wouldn't be the wiser.

I am well aware of that @Stevicus Heck there is one place where all there is is a phone and you call into customs

That said, hearing Americans talk about border security is pretty hilarious stuff.

 

[ronki23]

So?

It's a permission to enter

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

It's a permission to enter

No, it isn't:

An eTA doesn’t guarantee entry to Canada. When you arrive, a border services officer will ask to see your passport and other documents. You must convince the officer that you are eligible for entry into Canada.

Find out about electronic travel authorization (eTA) - Canada.ca

Find out about electronic travel authorization (eTA)

www.canada.ca

 

[Revoltingest]

Because it shouldn't matter who is getting married. What's wrong with coming for tourism? Why not leave it at that?

The "who" doesn't matter.
It's interrogation to discover gaps,
errors, & admissions useful to justify
detention or denial.
If someone can't quickly come up with
names of the betrothed, this suggests
subterfuge.