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Canada Using Communist Tactics

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
That's the article that the Jerusalem Post cited.

A more reasonable source:


Ontario’s largest school board is under fire after students at several schools were taken on a field trip where they appear to have ended up taking part in a protest held in downtown Toronto.

Students at a number of Toronto District School Board schools were given permission to head to a day of action for the people of Grassy Narrows First Nation on Wednesday, whose community river was impacted by years of mercury poisoning.

The board said a trip to view a protest by Grassy Narrows that had promised to attract thousands outside Queen’s Park was “an educational experience for students to hear from Indigenous voices about the ongoing challenges faced by the people of Grassy Narrows.”

Some parents and other groups, however, complained the trip veered away from education and into protest and activism.

[...]

“There were people in masks, people donning keffiyehs, showing signs about the Israel-Gaza war. This was a protest — and this is not the messaging that teachers put on information to parents about what they were doing.”

The school board itself admitted the event had not played out as expected and said an internal review would take place.

“We understand that issues beyond the main focus of this event were raised and that some students may have been negatively impacted by what they saw and heard,” TDSB said in a statement.

“The TDSB was not aware that students would engage with any issues outside of the main focus… and we apologize for the harm that some students may have experienced as a result. At this time, we are supporting impacted students and their families.”

The board's own statement: News: A Statement from Neethan Shan, Acting Chair on the school trip to the Grassy Narrows River Run event | Toronto District School Board

I think it seems strange that the staff involved didn't realize that the event would be a protest. This seems pretty clear from the promotional material for the event:


... so some questionable decisions seem to have been made, but it seems like the presence of anti-Israel protestors at the event was something that they legitimately didn't - and couldn't - foresee.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
I agree with those who say that the Canadian Federal government should not have frozen the assets of those who organized this protest, at least not all of them and not permanently.

But what does that have to do with students in Toronto? The federal government is not involved in this story at all. Why bring it up????
Seeing how this is about kids taking part in one protest he disapproves of but he dodged over to a different protest with kids that he he approves of, it seems that maybe @Kenny 's fetish is hypocrisy.

Hey, Kenny - remember when the Omicronvoy ******** used kids as a meat shield to block the border?

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9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
I agree with those who say that the Canadian Federal government should not have frozen the assets of those who organized this protest, at least not all of them and not permanently.
I think it was the right call.

The RCMP thwarted a real terrorist attack being planned at Coutts, and the occupation of Ottawa was curtailing the rights of the people of Ottawa on a continual basis.

At trial, the Canada Unity leaders' defense was that they weren't aware that funds raised by their organization were supporting criminal acts. Even Tamara Lich didn't dispute that she was funding crime; she just argued that she was funding it unwittingly.

Shutting that down was the right thing to do.
 
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Pogo

Well-Known Member
That's the article that the Jerusalem Post cited.

A more reasonable source:




The board's own statement: News: A Statement from Neethan Shan, Acting Chair on the school trip to the Grassy Narrows River Run event | Toronto District School Board

I think it seems strange that the staff involved didn't realize that the event would be a protest. This seems pretty clear from the promotional material for the event:


... so some questionable decisions seem to have been made, but it seems like the presence of anti-Israel protestors at the event was something that they legitimately didn't - and couldn't - foresee.
I find it interesting that children seeing people gathered to advocate for actions is considered educational but if some of them are advocating for some other rights, that is in itself harmful? What was the pedagogical intent in the first place?
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
From that article :
'..........allegedly asked by teachers to wear blue shirts in order to identify them as “settlers” and “colonizers.”........

What a good idea. Clearly the teachers wanted their pupils to understand that the meeting was to support Palestinian 'settlers' and 'colonisers' getting hurt rather than killers and terrorists.

I get the impression that the Israeli government is doing some terrible things to colonisers and settlers. Israeli actions in the West Bank region are also very wicked. Don't you think?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
My grandkids school uses blue for Autism day
That's actually shouldn't be used. It's promoted by Autism Speaks (a hate group) and stems from a dated amd harmful idea that the austic brain is hypermasculinized, a view that ended up overlooking and ignoring girls with autism because they aren't "masculine enough."
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member

Just like they did in Cuba and then in Venezuela, Canada continues its trek under the current administration.

If you can’t get people to join an anti-Israel, anti anything, either force employees or use children through the school system.

What is going on in our neighboring country of Canada?
I think no small part of the motivation for the present war is Netanyahu's desire to stay beyond the reach of Israeli law by remaining PM.

Donald Trump would sympathize instantly with that.

Ever since I was referred to the word "nakba", I've had a much clearer view of where the Gazans are coming from.

I also object strongly to the attempts to label criticism of the policies of the present Israeli government under Netanyahu as "antisemitic".
 

Wirey

Fartist
Not surprising. I don't have time to list all the things I've seen, but a simple one is making the wrong way turn from the wrong lane. Both ways. I was making a right, and pulled up alongside a vehicle in the second lane over, and lo and behold they turned right in front of me, oblivious to the fact I was even there. How many times in one day can a feller (me) mumble, "Do you even know what a signal light is?" And then there's the yielders in the free flow lanes ... Oops, you got me started. Drive safe, young man. Hey, this summer I finally, (after putting it off for 20 years) made it to yer Saturday morning farmer's market.
I go to the one in St Albert all the time.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
You don't usually consider whether you find a source serious enough to be worth mentioning?

I do.
I usually do, however, the person was simply asking if any other sources mentioned the event, so I gave another source.
 

Wirey

Fartist
Don't you hate it when someone says something completely idiotic, is shown the truth, and then doubles down instead of saying "Yeah, I was wrong. Maybe I shouldn't spread lies and hate..."?
*Mod edit*
I used a word I shouldn't have to describe a different poster, and I shouldn't have. I'd like to apologize to this individual. I'll try to be better.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
That's the article that the Jerusalem Post cited.

A more reasonable source:




The board's own statement: News: A Statement from Neethan Shan, Acting Chair on the school trip to the Grassy Narrows River Run event | Toronto District School Board

I think it seems strange that the staff involved didn't realize that the event would be a protest. This seems pretty clear from the promotional material for the event:


... so some questionable decisions seem to have been made, but it seems like the presence of anti-Israel protestors at the event was something that they legitimately didn't - and couldn't - foresee.
That is really really low of the field trip organizers to do that with their students.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
From that article :
'..........allegedly asked by teachers to wear blue shirts in order to identify them as “settlers” and “colonizers.”........

What a good idea. Clearly the teachers wanted their pupils to understand that the meeting was to support Palestinian 'settlers' and 'colonisers' getting hurt rather than killers and terrorists.

I get the impression that the Israeli government is doing some terrible things to colonisers and settlers. Israeli actions in the West Bank region are also very wicked. Don't you think?
You need to understand what this protest was about. From the article "Students were ostensibly meant to “observe” the protest supporting Grassy Narrows First Nation and their decades-old water crisis". If the students were instructed to wear blue shirts, it was in this context. You have to understand that 'settlers' and 'colonisers' was initially intended in the context of a first nations protest about water rights.

It was only after the students got there that the protest "morphed into an anti-Israel rally". Meaning that the intent of the teachers had nothing at all to do with support for Palestinians, regardless of how it turned out.
 
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oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
You need to understand what this protest was about. From the article "Students were ostensibly meant to “observe” the protest supporting Grassy Narrows First Nation and their decades-old water crisis". If the students were instructed to wear blue shirts, it was in this context. You have to understand that 'settlers' and 'colonisers' was initially intended in the context of a first nations protest about water rights.

It was only after the students got there that the protest "morphed into an anti-Israel rally". Meaning that the intent of the teachers had nothing at all to do with support for Palestinians, regardless of how it turned out.
Well.....support for Palestinian victims in Gaza and on West Bank has become so strong around the World that I suppose even a classic car show might easily attract such empathy.
No?
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Well.....support for Palestinian victims in Gaza and on West Bank has become so strong around the World that I suppose even a classic car show might easily attract such empathy.
No?
Perhaps, but I want to make two points. First, with this story, you must understand the order of events if you want to understand the intent. And second, as important as the issue of Gaza is, it is not the only issue that exists in the world.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
You need to understand what this protest was about. From the article "Students were ostensibly meant to “observe” the protest supporting Grassy Narrows First Nation and their decades-old water crisis". If the students were instructed to wear blue shirts, it was in this context. You have to understand that 'settlers' and 'colonisers' was initially intended in the context of a first nations protest about water rights.

It was only after the students got there that the protest "morphed into an anti-Israel rally". Meaning that the intent of the teachers had nothing at all to do with support for Palestinians, regardless of how it turned out.
The fact that they even took them to a protest should raise red flags and alarm bells it would have been better off getting permission to go on their land and having them taught there.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
I have no idea what you are talking about.
All learning should be in sanitized environments without a chance of the outside world encroaching.
Nothing less than 25 years old was allowed in history books as my HS history teacher told us so that "sufficient distance" could be maintained. Like no discussion of the viet-nam war till my kids went to school, though we did get a sanitized version of the McCarthy hearings.
 
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