Cannabis Rescheduling

[The Hammer]

Decided to make this a separate thread.

So it appears that cannabis is going to be rescheduled from it's.current classification, to a lesser one. While also acknowledging it's medicinal benefits.

US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana in a historic shift, AP sources say

In a historic shift, the U.S. moves to reclassify marijuana as a less dangerous drug, AP sources say.

apnews.com

Is this a good thing or a bad thing? Why?

 

[RestlessSoul]

Less dangerous than what, is the question begging to be asked. Is cannabis less dangerous than alcohol or tobacco? Almost certainly. Is it less dangerous than previously thought? That would depend on who previously thought what.

With stronger and stronger strains being produced in hydroponic factories, there might be a case for arguing that skunk is more dangerous to mental health than the Moroccan hash we used to smoke in the U.K. back in the day.

 

[Stevicus]

Decided to make this a separate thread.

So it appears that cannabis is going to be rescheduled from it's.current classification, to a lesser one. While also acknowledging it's medicinal benefits.

US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana in a historic shift, AP sources say

In a historic shift, the U.S. moves to reclassify marijuana as a less dangerous drug, AP sources say.

apnews.com

Is this a good thing or a bad thing? Why?

I wouldn't say it's bad, but it would be better if there was complete legalization.

 

[The Hammer]

Less dangerous than what, is the question begging to be asked. Is cannabis less dangerous than alcohol or tobacco? Almost certainly. Is it less dangerous than previously thought? That would depend on who previously thought what.

With stronger and stronger strains being produced in hydroponic factories, there might be a case for arguing that skunk is more dangerous to mental health than the Moroccan hash we used to smoke in the U.K. back in the day.

Yeah the purity can cause problems. The underground market bred strong strains as a way to keep customers. And now with concentrates, you've really got to be careful. Although hash is way up there in strength too, being technically a concentrate as well.

 

[The Hammer]

I wouldn't say it's bad, but it would be better if there was complete legalization.

I can see it being regulated in a way similar to how we regulate tobacco and alcohol. Probably should be as well. But this is a step towards that.

 

[Eddi]

Decided to make this a separate thread.

So it appears that cannabis is going to be rescheduled from it's.current classification, to a lesser one. While also acknowledging it's medicinal benefits.

US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana in a historic shift, AP sources say

In a historic shift, the U.S. moves to reclassify marijuana as a less dangerous drug, AP sources say.

apnews.com

Is this a good thing or a bad thing? Why?

In the UK it was a Class B substance but it was then downgraded to Class C and then upgraded again to a Class B

Which I think is more than a little silly

 

[The Hammer]

In the UK it was a Class B substance but it was then downgraded to Class C and then upgraded again to a Class B

Which I think is more than a little silly

What's class B? Here Schedule 1 puts cannabis currently on par with heroin, LSD, Peyote and and Ecstacy/MDMA.

 

[Eddi]

What's class B? Here Schedule 1 puts cannabis currently on par with heroin, LSD, Peyote and and Ecstacy/MDMA.

Those things are Class A over here as is cocaine

Possession of Class B can get you up to 5 years in prison and an unlimited fine, more if it's possession with intent to supply

 

[RestlessSoul]

What's class B? Here Schedule 1 puts cannabis currently on par with heroin, LSD, Peyote and and Ecstacy/MDMA.

That’s just daft, and probably not helpful to anyone, classing cannabis with heroin. I’d argue LSD and peyote are also way less harmful than heroin.

The only recreational drugs as dangerous as heroin, are cocaine and alcohol imo, but that’s another story.

 

[The Hammer]

The only recreational drugs as dangerous as heroin, are cocaine and alcohol imo, but that’s another story

And methamphetamine. That stuff is terrible for you.

 

[Eddi]

And methamphetamine. That stuff is terrible for you.

I would never touch that stuff the whole experience sounds awful and it totally wrecks the human body

 

[RestlessSoul]

Those things are Class A over here as is cocaine

Possession of Class B can get you up to 5 years in prison and an unlimited fine, more if it's possession with intent to supply

So I did a quick Google to see how many people are imprisoned in the U.K. for cannabis offences, and apparently in 2019 (I couldn’t find more recent figures) it was 682.

I was shocked, didn’t think people got sent to prison for cannabis anymore. Seems a terrible waste of the justice system’s resources apart from anything else.

Cannabis prisoners England and Wales 2019 | Statista

 

[Eddi]

So I did a quick Google to see how many people are imprisoned in the U.K. for cannabis offences, and apparently I’m 2019 (I couldn’t find more recent figures) it was 682. I was pretty shocked, didn’t think people got sent to prison for cannabis anymore. Seems a terrible waste of the justice system’s resources apart from anything else.

Cannabis prisoners England and Wales 2019 | Statista

I agree

And I think 682 sounds a lot but that if you consider how many people actually use it then it's not quite so much and I should imagine most of those would be dealers or growers

 

[The Hammer]

I would never touch that stuff the whole experience sounds awful and it totally wrecks the human body

Mhmm. My wife showed me some stats about it and holy smokes.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Decided to make this a separate thread.

So it appears that cannabis is going to be rescheduled from it's.current classification, to a lesser one. While also acknowledging it's medicinal benefits.

US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana in a historic shift, AP sources say

In a historic shift, the U.S. moves to reclassify marijuana as a less dangerous drug, AP sources say.

apnews.com

Is this a good thing or a bad thing? Why?

I think it's good. Especially since I heard of doctors recommendations on the use of medical cannabis. I softened my stance on the drug when used appropriately.

 

[Eddi]

Mhmm. My wife showed me some stats about it and holy smokes.

Yes, and I should think a Google Image search for "meth mouth" would be enough to put anyone off....

 

[The Hammer]

Yes, and I should think a Google Image search for "meth mouth" would be enough to put anyone off....

Never liked appeals to emotion. I looked at a comparison of dopamine released in the brain by various drugs. Meth, cannabis, alcohol and cocaine I think.

"Researchers tried to quantify the amount of dopamine that gets released in pleasurable behaviors. So, if you enjoy eating chocolate, dopamine, on average, will rise about 50 percent above that baseline. Sex is likely to cause a 100 percent spike. Amphetamines, a class of drugs that includes meth, will trigger dopamine to surge above baseline at about 1,000 percent. "

 

[Eddi]

Never liked appeals to emotion.

I don't see how not doing something because it ruins your teeth (amongst other reasons) counts as being emotional

 

[The Hammer]

I don't see how not doing something because it ruins your teeth (amongst other reasons) counts as being emotional

.it's used as an "look how bad this is for you". It simultaneously makes the non-user cringe and go ew (emotional response), while the user is shamed into compliance (emotional response).

 

[Eddi]

.it's used as an "look how bad this is for you". It simultaneously makes the non-user cringe and go ew (emotional response), while the user is shamed into compliance (emotional response).

I call that stating the facts

Although it may provoke emotions I think that the fact that Amphetamines destroy your mouth is a sensible and rational reason not to take that poison