Capitalism and Spirituality

[Fool]

Spiritually is capitalism a service to self type, or negative spirituality, or is it serve to all as self, positive type spirituality?

 

[Revoltingest]

Spirituality is up to the individual, whatever
economic system they enjoy...or endure.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

I think it mostly serves, not just any self, but powerful selves. However, I am willing to bet that a particularly clever capitalist could just as easily make life enriching.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Spiritually is capitalism a service to self type, or negative spirituality, or is it serve to all as self, positive type spirituality?

I see spirituality is a motivation for selfless service in any capacity one can find to serve others.

When used correctly, work can even become worship, as it enables us to undertake that work with the aim to do be the best at what we do, to be a benefit for others and use the wages made to help family, friends and as many as we can.

We can use capitalism as a means to help the less fortunate.

Regards Tony

 

[Twilight Hue]

Spiritually is capitalism a service to self type, or negative spirituality, or is it serve to all as self, positive type spirituality?

It's called the immaculate religious cottage industry LTD INC COOP DILDO FRA,KUS GOoP PEWER GOFUNKLze. ... BZZT. FIZZLE SHIZZLE.

 

[Hermit Philosopher]

Spiritually is capitalism a service to self type, or negative spirituality, or is it serve to all as self, positive type spirituality?

I don’t think that I actually understand this question.

Capitalism addresses the clearly mundane (as in “worldly”) issue of capital. Spirituality addresses something completely different.


Humbly,
Hermit

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Spiritually is capitalism a service to self type, or negative spirituality, or is it serve to all as self, positive type spirituality?

Capitalism is a service to those already born into money and privilege, and on rare occasions, the extremely lucky. I see no connect to spirituality.

 

[RestlessSoul]

I don’t think that I actually understand this question.

Capitalism addresses the clearly mundane (as in “worldly”) issue of capital. Spirituality addresses something completely different.


Humbly,
Hermit

But as spiritual beings living a human experience (if that's what we are), we have to reach an accommodation with the mundane and the worldly. I can't tell the landlord he can't have his rent this month because I've put my life on a spiritual basis.

 

[Ella S.]

I wouldn't say that capitalism is about service to the self. If anything, it is a democratic theory of value where buyers and sellers collectively cooperate to determine the "market value" of goods and services.

The original idea proposed by Adam Smith was in opposition to mercantalism, where value was assigned based on its benefit to a centralized government. It was meant to free the market from the control of any specific institution so that it could be in the hands of everyone, hence the term "free market."

A devout capitalist would not see the success of their business as solely benefiting themselves but would say that their business succeeds because market forces have determined that it provides valuable goods and services. That's not inherently selfish. In its own way, it is quite pro-social.

Capitalism is easily abused by selfish people, and that can constitute a pragmatic deconstruction of the theory, but many capitalists can respond that no economic system is perfect when it's implemented. Capitalism is still the best alternative to them.

Whether you agree with that or not, that position isn't held exclusively due to selfishness, either.

 

[Hermit Philosopher]

But as spiritual beings living a human experience (if that's what we are), we have to reach an accommodation with the mundane and the worldly. I can't tell the landlord he can't have his rent this month because I've put my life on a spiritual basis.

No, that would not go down too well.

Here’s how I see it:
In our incarnated state of being, the world and how it unfolds, is what we encounter and engage with. The way in which the world runs, varies from time and place but no matter how it’s run in your time and place; that’s what you’ll have to relate to.

That’s what we spiritually all must do; relate to what is.

If the circumstances that you are in are capitalist ones, you’ll need to act in relation to those, because that’s what’s around you. But whether you go all in, do so half heartedly or indeed at all (!) is, in essence, a choice.

We all have different traits and some of our own traits can be shaped into strengths that we can “capitalise” on.

We can choose to do this on a multitude of different levels: from just enough to cover our basic needs, to putting our entire being into perfecting the traits/strengths we intend to “capitalise” on and make that (and capitalising in general) into our life’s purpose, if we so wish. We could also choose not to explore our traits or their potentials at all - yet, we should bear in mind that our traits will play their roles in what occurs, regardless.

My comments do not, of course, suggest how you are to pay for next month’s rent. But I’m not sure that was your actual question anyway.

Humbly,
Hermit

 

[Revoltingest]

Capitalism is a service to those already born into money and privilege, and on rare occasions, the extremely lucky. I see no connect to spirituality.

You must practice a very strange version of capitalism.
Mine provides service to all sorts of people.

 

[PureX]

Spiritually is capitalism a service to self type, or negative spirituality, or is it serve to all as self, positive type spirituality?

Capitalism is systematized greed. It doesn't get any more selfish then that. Spiritually, it's poison to everyone it touches.

 

[Revoltingest]

Capitalism is systematized greed.

Your socialism & communism are as spiritual as....

 

[Audie]

Going to church to get saved, along with all other
so called "spiritual" practices is exactly about serving self.
The social services angle that gets worked in is strictly secondary. And is also largely self serving.

 

[Nakosis]

Spiritually is capitalism a service to self type, or negative spirituality, or is it serve to all as self, positive type spirituality?

Capitalism has no necessary correlation to spirituality.
Though a capitalist can usually be more spiritual than they would be in a socialist economy.

Certainly there exists plenty of websites that show how spiritualism can thrive in a capitalist economy.
Not so much in a socialist economy since religious thinking usually ends up being criminalized.

I suppose socialist ideology doesn't like the competition.

 

[Audie]

Capitalism is systematized greed. It doesn't get any more selfish then that. Spiritually, it's poison to everyone it touches.

Spiritually speaking, you seem to have a lot of
nasty things to say about other people.

Kinda like Trump, or any bigot you'd care to name.

 

[Audie]

Capitalism has no necessary correlation to spirituality.
A capitalist can usually be more spiritual than in a socialist economy.

Certainly there exists plenty of website that show how spiritualism can thrive in a capitalist economy.
Not so much in a socialist economy since religious thinking usually ends up being criminalized.

I suppose socialist ideology doesn't like the competition.

See the efforts to stamp out all
or most religion in Russia, China,
North Korea.....

It thrives excessively in capitalist usa

 

[Audie]

You must practice a very strange version of capitalism.
Mine provides service to all sorts of people.

Socialidt ideology uber alles

 

[Revoltingest]

Socialidt ideology uber alles

True believers are so difficult to converse with.

 

[Nakosis]

See the efforts to stamp out all
or most religion in Russia, China,
North Korea.....

It thrives excessively in capitalist usa

Much to my chagrin but freedom of speech and all that. Along with the freedom for folks to spend money according to their personal values.