Cardinal Law

[patronkerr]

Can any of you Roman Catholics out there please explain why Cardinal Law, a man of doubtful morals, finds himself in an exhalted position in the Vatican. Has his sins been forgiven - or overlooked?

 

[Pah]

Moving to Religious Debate

 

[Scott1]

Can any of you Roman Catholics out there please explain why Cardinal Law, a man of doubtful morals, finds himself in an exhalted position in the Vatican. Has his sins been forgiven - or overlooked?

I never met the man... so I can't judge his morality.

When you met him, and discussed at length his morality, ethics, and faith, what led you to believe his morals were lacking?

..... or were you just reading some newspaper quotes and judging another human being?

Thought so.:sarcastic

 

[Majikthise]

C'mon Scott, I never met Whitey Bulger but I think he did commit the crimes in the "newspaper quotes".

 

[Scuba Pete]

I'm with Scott on this. Much of what the Catholic Priests are accused of consists of people trying to take advantage of the system. It stinks!

I have never met the man either nor have I heard his side of the story. Until such time as that, I would not presume to impugn his morality.

 

[Prima]

It did bother me that he was given a place of honor. Yes, forgive him for whatever he did wrong. But that doesn't mean you should give him a place of honor.

On a side note, I also wish that the assassin had been able to attend. I think JP would have wanted that!

 

[Majikthise]

I can't believe what I'm hearing.Anyone who covers up for pedophiles is just as guilty as them. Don't you see this guy for what he is? His duty to Rome came before his duty to humanity.

www.bostonpheonix.com/boston/news_features/documents/02187944.htm-

He wasn't a member of a country club, he was a trusted official in the Catholic church.I wouldn't defend a family member in his position.

 

[Majikthise]

Thought so.:sarcastic

 

[Majikthise]

www.bostonpheonix.com/boston/news_features/top/features/documents/02187944.htm-

 

[Majikthise]

Coudn't get the website to work,crap!!:banghead3

 

[Saw11_2000]

Cardinal Law is an abysmal human being.

That's the nicest thing I can say about him.

 

[linwood]

I haven`t met him but I have seen the legal briefs he put out in defense of his priests.

I`ve posted this here before....

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Cardinal Bernard Law filed a reply to the lawsuit of one of his priests victims.
A man this priest began raping when he was 6 years old and continued molesting him for 3 years. Laws reply to this law suit was…

“The defendant says that the Plaintiffs were not in the exercise of due care, but rather the negligence of the Plaintiffs contributed to cause the injury or damage complained of."

According to Cardinal Law the boy’s parents were to blame because they left him in the care of their priest.

This is serious blaming the victim.
He is not only admitting that his priest repeatedly raped their 6 year old boy he is telling them it was their fault. This was the Moral guide of the souls of the Archdiocese of Boston.

This move shows that the leadership of the Church has no clue what is going on in the real world yet they post their ridiculous edicts to it regularly.

There has been no acceptable reform within the Church to fix this inherent problem.

What was Cardinal Law’s punishment for his enabling and even hiding the rape of children by his priests?

He retired from his job overseeing the Archdiocese of Boston.

There’s not much of an Archdiocese left after lawsuits forced the sale of 65 churches.

He was then immediately given a new post overseeing one of four major Roman Basilicas.

This is the pinnacle of his career, he can go no higher.

This is punishment?

They’ve rewarded him for his valiant attempts to hide these sick priests and allow then to continue raping children!!

Thousands and thousands of children have been molested/raped by Catholic priests worldwide.

The official stance of the head of the church is cover- up, blame the victim, or pay them off if you can.

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I can set that beside my own moral center and judge it fairly.

 

[Saw11_2000]

^It makes me sick to think how many kids those priests did stuff to. And he just turns a cold shoulder.

Why does it seem like 99.9% of these priest pedophiles are Catholic? You never hear of a protestant priest raping a kid. I think it has to do with the fact that Catholic priests can't get married. I think that might help the situation from happening anymore, or again.

 

[linwood]

Why does it seem like 99.9% of these priest pedophiles are Catholic? You never hear of a protestant priest raping a kid. I think it has to do with the fact that Catholic priests can't get married. I think that might help the situation from happening anymore, or again.

Thats a bit unfair Saw.

The Jehovahs witnesses have a problem with pedophilia thats as extensive as the Catholic Churchs and they are doing even less to fix the problem.

Secular institutionas have the same problem to a lesser extent.
Many teachers are pedophiles and the schools and school systems passthem through to other schools much like the church did with their priests.

At the very least the Catholic Church has admitted there is a problem and taken steps to correct it.

I greatly dislike Cardinal Law for the part he played but I will give credit to the Church overall for finally confronting this problem.
I just hope something comes of it

 

[Saw11_2000]

I never said that I didn't think the Catholic church was doing anything about it, I do think they are moving in a positive direction.

I haven't heard about a problem with JWs.

And I still believe that 99.9% of the reports in the news of religion pedophiles deal with Catholic pedophiles.

 

[linwood]

I never said that I didn't think the Catholic church was doing anything about it, I do think they are moving in a positive direction.

I haven't heard about a problem with JWs.

And I still believe that 99.9% of the reports in the news of religion pedophiles deal with Catholic pedophiles.

My apologies Saw.

You`re right about the media coverage and the fact that I know about the JW problem is only because I dug long and hard for the extent of it.
It was not readily available for public consumption.

Not many people would know about it otherwise.

 

[Majikthise]

I have met catholic priests , it's hard not to where I live.Most seemed nice enough.I definitely do not think they are all to blame.But Law ignored what was right in front of his face to protect the really bad ones.It effected me enough to not let my daughters godmother to take her to her church.Better safe than sorry. See what he has done? He has broken a lot of peoples trust. I'm not the only one.:149:

 

[Saw11_2000]

I never said that I didn't think the Catholic church was doing anything about it, I do think they are moving in a positive direction.

I haven't heard about a problem with JWs.

And I still believe that 99.9% of the reports in the news of religion pedophiles deal with Catholic pedophiles.

My apologies Saw.

You`re right about the media coverage and the fact that I know about the JW problem is only because I dug long and hard for the extent of it.
It was not readily available for public consumption.

Not many people would know about it otherwise.

No...don't be sorry, it was my fault for being un-clear. Sorry if I seemed snappy at you, I didn't mean it.

Thank you for expanding my knowledge, I did not hear of a JW pedophile crisis.

 

[patronkerr]

I didn't meet Stalin either, nor Hiltler, nor Pol Pot.

 

[Scott1]

I didn't meet Stalin either, nor Hiltler, nor Pol Pot.

Oh vey.... let me put an end to this:

Cardinal Law should be shot.... amen.... let's move on.