Castration of Sex Offenders

[kai]

Oh, okay, thank you for clarifying. I'm sorry for being haste and dense, I guess I'm a little sensitive today.

:sorry1:


I completely agree with your point.

thats ok sometimes its hard to see the context of text, you just read it and it may be differant in your mind than in mine (if you know what i mean)

 

[Mathematician]

Good God. The pain that guy must have went through while cutting off his own testicles. I can only imagine.

According to Tom Burnam's Dictionary of Misinformation, a common misconception about eunuchs is that, since they were castrated, they were either unable or unwanting to defile or perform sexual intercourse with the women in the harem they were employed to watch over. This was not always true, however. Though they would be expected to have a lower sex drive, eunuchs could often achieve an erection and engage in coitus, though no pregnancy could result. According to Burnham, some women preferred eunuchs as lovers since they never ejaculated and could, therefore, maintain erections longer.

From wikipedia.

Even if you cut off their testicles and penis, they could still molest someone other ways. They still have fingers, tongues, and yes, feet. :-/

I'm against castration unless the criminal choses it for himself. If so, more power to him. Well...

 

[lasthope]

No one deserves to be raped.

You are right. Not a single person on this earth deserves to be raped. Especially an innocent child. A child molster deserves much, much worse. I am not going to debate this with you because you have stated your position.
No, I recant, a CHILD MOLESTER does deserve it. Over and over again while being forced to drink a strawberry fanta and listen to its a small world after all. If my 70 cents a day can buy me that, then Sally Struthers can sign me up for two. The only people who don't think that child molesters are some of the sickest people on this earth need to check themselves into the local jail so some innocent child will be safe from them. People can quote me all they want. This is my position on it and I will not stop arguing it until all the people on this planet, with kids, can honestly tell me they will allow a registered sex offender to babysit their child for the evening while they go out for a night of dinner and dancing just to come home a realize that the "reformed" registered sex offender "fell off the wagon","had a little slip", "had a moment of weakness" and has raped their child and possibly killed them. No, no, no, no, no. Leave them in jail and let them rot...with an hourly visit from a huge guy named Bubba with a tatoo that says "I Love Mom" down his left arm and one on his right arm that says "Diamonds are forever"

Disclaimer: The names and events used in the above statement are fictional. Any resemblance to people living or dead or events of past or present are purely coincidental.

 

[jamaesi]

No, I recant, a CHILD MOLESTER does deserve it. Over and over again while being forced to drink a strawberry fanta and listen to its a small world after all. If my 70 cents a day can buy me that, then Sally Struthers can sign me up for two.
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No, no, no, no, no. Leave them in jail and let them rot...with an hourly visit from a huge guy named Bubba with a tatoo that says "I Love Mom" down his left arm and one on his right arm that says "Diamonds are forever"

That is absolutely horrible.
No one deserves to be raped. I don't wish what was done to me to be done to anyone, not even the ones who hurt me.

We should also be ashamed as a country we let our prison systems be run in such a way that rape is a common occurance and an endless well of jokes.

The only people who don't think that child molesters are some of the sickest people on this earth need to check themselves into the local jail so some innocent child will be safe from them. People can quote me all they want. This is my position on it and I will not stop arguing it until all the people on this planet, with kids, can honestly tell me they will allow a registered sex offender to babysit their child for the evening while they go out for a night of dinner and dancing just to come home a realize that the "reformed" registered sex offender "fell off the wagon","had a little slip", "had a moment of weakness" and has raped their child and possibly killed them.

What they do is sick. A lot of them also have lots of mental problems and were abused themselves- and some never chose to be attracted to children. It doesn't excuse what they did, nothing does. It's just a terribly sad situation for all involved. Keep them away from society for a good long time and try and rehab them. There is no need to be needlessly cruel and substitute revenge for justice.

However I have NEVER said that registered sex offenders should be allowed to be around children or the rest of society unless they are one of the rare cases that responds to the treatment option there are around today (and then never around children alone).


Just because I have a little compassion doesn't make me an idiot.



Also, are you aware of what gets you listed as a registered sex offender? Urinating in public, masturbation in public, prostitution, two teenagers who are in love and mess around if one is over 18 and the other 17. Anal sex and owning a vibrator are still sex crimes in some areas!
Not all registered sex offenders are rapists.

The consensual sex I had with my SO a few years ago would have labeled him a sex offender with aggravated sexual assault of a minour in some areas because of my age and him being a few years older than me.

 

[Mathematician]

You are right. Not a single person on this earth deserves to be raped. Especially an innocent child. A child molster deserves much, much worse. I am not going to debate this with you because you have stated your position.
No, I recant, a CHILD MOLESTER does deserve it. Over and over again while being forced to drink a strawberry fanta and listen to its a small world after all. If my 70 cents a day can buy me that, then Sally Struthers can sign me up for two. The only people who don't think that child molesters are some of the sickest people on this earth need to check themselves into the local jail so some innocent child will be safe from them. People can quote me all they want. This is my position on it and I will not stop arguing it until all the people on this planet, with kids, can honestly tell me they will allow a registered sex offender to babysit their child for the evening while they go out for a night of dinner and dancing just to come home a realize that the "reformed" registered sex offender "fell off the wagon","had a little slip", "had a moment of weakness" and has raped their child and possibly killed them. No, no, no, no, no. Leave them in jail and let them rot...with an hourly visit from a huge guy named Bubba with a tatoo that says "I Love Mom" down his left arm and one on his right arm that says "Diamonds are forever"

Disclaimer: The names and events used in the above statement are fictional. Any resemblance to people living or dead or events of past or present are purely coincidental.

You're against rape, but you're also for it?

Might I mind you that you can have sympathy for the victim and the criminal? I feel sorry for all children hurt, but I also feel sorry for those who are inflicted by pedophilia. It's a sad situation.

 

[jamaesi]

When I started this thread I wanted to discuss castration as a solution to repeat violent sex offenders, not how sick you think child molestors are or what "creative" solutions you have for them- there have been plenty of threads that have read just like that and if you want to start another please do so. I admit I've gone off topic in a few of my reponses but I would like to return to the original topic.

Could we please stick to that?

 

[mr.guy]

...castration as a solution to repeat violent sex offenders...

Perhaps this is crux within itself; it may not indeed be a worthy solution.

 

[c0da]

Chopping off a guys meat and veg would be too cruel. Just lock them up.

Just wondering though, how many of those who have said castration would be fair for paedo's and rapists would advocate cutting off the hands of burglars or something like that?

 

[jamaesi]

Perhaps this is crux within itself; it may not indeed be a worthy solution.

Perhaps not ones who have actually repeated, but might repeat.

 

[evearael]

I believe voluntary castration should be provided upon request for those who honestly seek to amend their ways. If it is not voluntary, it is cruel and unusual, and thus inappropriate. Do the most grievous offenders deserve it or much worse? I very much believe so. There is no punishment that a human can mete out that will adequately extract vengence from the worst of the sex offenders. (I say worst because there is a world of difference between a person who rapes a toddler and a nineteen year old consensually sleeping with his seventeen year old girlfriend.) No punishment can ever give the victim back what they have lost. They should slowly rot in jail with no chance of parole, though that is outside the scope of this thread.

 

[mr.guy]

Perhaps not ones who have actually repeated, but might repeat.

Sorry, i'm not trying to take it off the table, but in keeping with good critisism it might be safe (for the time being) to disregard castration as a mitigating legal institution. While few have put forth any good reasons to forcibly castrate criminals, i'm increasingly convinced that it might not be of great value when considering how to subsequently institutionalize our society's "deviants" once neutered.

 

[BUDDY]

Could we please stick to that?

I am not sure what my answer to this is jamaesi. If it can be proven that sex offenses and testosterone production are directly linked, then perhaps this may work. I think that many sexual offenses are due to psychological disorders rather than physical ones though. Also, state mandated casration could very easily be classified as cruel and unusual punishment, which could bring into question its practice by the government.

On another note; while castration may be an option for male offenders, there is no equal punishment for female sex offenders, is there? Admittedly, I am ignorant as to this subject.

 

[mr.guy]

On another note; while castration may be an option for male offenders, there is no equal punishment for female sex offenders, is there?

On an interesting side note (again), i'm not sure we could imagine a female sexual predator who could equal her male compatriot; our societal view of gender and sexuality doesn't currently allow much flexibility when describing female sexual behaviour, save the catch-all term "****".

 

[lasthope]

Could we please stick to that?

In that case. No, to the castration. As much as i would like to see every child molester reach for their crotch to scratch an itch just to be reminded that they have nothing to scratch, in my opinion, it would be pointless. I believe that it is too much of a mental issue to fix by removing sexual organs