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Catholic Excommunication

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member

""I wrote to the Sydney archdiocese in the week a jury would convict Pell as a choirboy rapist. Over five carefully considered A4 pages I condemned the church as cruel on abortion, euthanasia and suicide; as malign on contraception; recalcitrant on women; degenerate and prurient on gays and sex; and as criminal on child sex abuse. I wasn’t a Catholic and wanted any relevant records amended to protect me from the church, and to protect its members from ever mistaking me for a Catholic.

And then … nothing. It took two more chase-up letters over three months to rouse any response. When it came I was presented – without consultation – with that familiar vague undertaking to formally note on the baptismal register my desire to leave.

“Desire to leave” is a slippery formula – a small nod to an intention that preserves the church’s position: yes, you’d like to leave but actually … you can’t. It sidesteps the facts: you have left and you are not Catholic.

I wanted more than “desire to leave”. I demanded my own form of words on the baptismal register.""
 

JACC2312

Member
Tell that to the church. *Eyeroll*

The point is the Church™ seems to think otherwise. So I want it removed mostly on principle.
I wouldn't be so obsesed with that removal, somehow the act should be to write you as an apostate, some one that publicly has defected the faith, and thus perhaps they should have a book of apostates where they could write your name, but apart from that we just live in non confessional States, no body can force you to fulfill your commitment to any religious group.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Can it be requested?

I want my name off of the Church rolls.

I never made a "choice" to join the church and was forced to as a teenager.

I disagree with just about everything it stands for irt abortion, trans individuals, homosexual marriage, guilt/salvation theology etc.
I had a friend who did the following: She went to the bishop with a letter that discussed why she was leaving and giving pertinent information (I'm sure your local priest would be able to tell you what info they need.) She went through an interview, I assume to make sure she understood what she was doing. They told her that her letter would be filed alongside the record of her baptism. So she is officially no longer Catholic.

Most people who leave the Catholic Church just don't want to be bothered with all that. They simply stop attending and identifying as a Catholic. I believe they say to themselves, "The CC may be stupid enough to still count me as a Catholic, but I know that I'm not, and all my friends and family know that I'm not."

Now, if for some reason they no longer do this (I can't keep up with their changes), you have the option to leave in a notorious fashion. Open up a blog or vlog where you rail against the Catholic Church and get a large following. Such acts have brought excommunication for most of Catholic history, I believe.

Good luck to you. I hope you find peace and can eventually move on.
 
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IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Yes, but they don't automatically check for that. It's not like the church knows since we aren't in the once imperial Roman state.
It is worth noting that apostasy is the converting to a whole other religion. The Catholic Church does not think Protestants are a different religion. The catechism says they are rightly called Christians, and treats them as a kind of imperfect Catholic. I'm not sure how becoming secular would be seen. Technically, secularism is not a religion, but the lack of religion.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Here's a plan:
  1. Go into a Catholic church and tell everyone who you are, introduce yourself to the priest and the congregation
  2. Tell them your actual beliefs and that you don't share their beliefs
  3. Try and become involved in the life of that church whilst sharing your beliefs vocally
  4. Even take communion, indeed make a point of taking it
They may eventually formally kick you out!
That's cute and I had a good laugh, Eddi. :)

Sometimes I have difficulty in text knowing when someone is being sincere and when they are joking. If by chance you were being serious, the above would be unethical. No one should go to any private meeting such as a church with the intent to disrupt. It's extraordinarily rude.
 

Eddi

Christianity, Taoism, and Humanism
Premium Member
That's cute and I had a good laugh, Eddi. :)

Sometimes I have difficulty in text knowing when someone is being sincere and when they are joking. If by chance you were being serious, the above would be unethical. No one should go to any private meeting such as a church with the intent to disrupt. It's extraordinarily rude.
It's OK I said it in jest
 
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