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'celebrating' shabbat

Vor

Member
(this is a long one and it may seem uninteresting but the penalty for breaking shabbat is death so maybe that'll grab your interest enough to read?)

Shabbat is from sundown on friday to when you can see three stars in the sky on saturday and it's a time of rest. We have clues as to what would be permissible and what wouldn't be.

1)its a day of COMPLETE rest to the L-rd
2)Moses said "it is a day of rest" so everyone "went to their place"
3)When someone was found collecting fire wood, Moses didn't know what to do with him, so he was held and the L-rd said "he must be killed".
4)to remember the Sabbath and keep it holy

Collecting firewood, is this a chore for G-d? What if that wood was to be used to keep a family alive at night in the freezing cold?

It's been said, by tradition, that you can't turn on a light or extinguish a fire. In Israel they have elevators where you don't have to hit a button and it automatically raises you to the next floor which is totally in the spirit of Shabbat. To not even have to hit a button. There are people who wait at cross walks without hitting the button to cross the street and instead simply wait to cross and this is borderline. Here is why; if your standing there, what is on the other side? Why would you hit that button to cross? Perhaps the L-rd would rather you wait a moment and contemplate on H-m. Then again, perhaps you've been thinking about the L-rd, your mind is tired, and you need inspiration. What if there was a family member waiting for you who may also be feeling antsy.

Sitting still isn't rest necessarily. Without blood flow circulating there can be extreme discomfort and this just isn't a rest to the L-rd.

The practice of not lighting a fire is very different from hitting a button to turn on the light. But I do see that the light could have been turned on before. Regardless, there are sometimes preparing that I forget things. For my celebrationof Shabbat, the simple flicking of a switch is different then making a fire.

Collecting fire wood is a chore. Flicking a switch is a chore. But is your flicking of a light switch to the L-rd? It's a day of COMPLETE rest to the L-rd but I'm not even going to say you should ask yourself these questions because it's written not to add or take away anything from the law.

So what was that long talk about? My overcoming the guilt of hitting a light switch and nuking a meal in the microwave? Pretty much.)(

There is a huge problem though, if 75% of the world is Christian then shouldn't we all be celebrating Shabbat, and if so, how come when I was out and about on shabbat there were so many people not in their places?
 

tomspug

Absorbant
There is a huge problem though, if 75% of the world is Christian then shouldn't we all be celebrating Shabbat, and if so, how come when I was out and about on shabbat there were so many people not in their places?
No, the huge problem is that people actually worry about this kind of stuff instead of listening to the very words of Jesus. Two commands: love God and love people. All the rest is just noise.
 

kai

ragamuffin
vor that is jewish stuff, christians no longer follow old testement law , i take it you have heard of the new testement
 

Ronald

Well-Known Member
It seems Christians forget that both Y H V H and Yeshua/Jesus said they do not change, since there is no change in the law how can it be that only two commandments apply to Christians?

I follow Sha'ul as he imitates Yeshua the Moshiach! This may be Jewish, but it applies to all flesh to keep his commandments, that is if one wishes to enter the city by it's gates.

Yeshua never darkened a church door!
Never celebrated is birthday.
never hunted colored eggs.
He did and he will again, keep the Sabbath and the Moedim.
So it would behoove everyone to investigate the Holy Days of God, because they will be the days celebrated in the one thousand year reign of HaMashiach. One should rehearse them at least once to know what to do.

Shalom
 

Vor

Member
No, the huge problem is that people actually worry about this kind of stuff instead of listening to the very words of Jesus. Two commands: love God and love people. All the rest is just noise.

well yeah those are the greatest commandments but Jesus said alot more and there are other commandments
 

jewscout

Religious Zionist
you've also forgotten 37 other forms of work forbidden on shabbat, their Av melacha, toldot and the prohibitions which come from the 38 melachot which are D'rabbanin (from the rabbis)
 
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