Celtic magic, fairies and reincarnation and psychology? anyone can explain it?

[jugi]

Hi,
Can I ask something because this issue bothering me, please..

I do not mean any specific beliefs (such as esp. Celtic or Wicca, etc) only in general..

So:
1) do anyone know, believe it or only THINK that it is possible, esp. some cases (eg. in literature or story) about love defender positive witches in process of witchcraft??? Or they met for the reincarnation in the next life, somehow.. or something like that..

eg. this story: http://www.amazon.com/Black-Body-H-C-Turk/dp/0517068893/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8

eg no 2:

2) how is the issue of the psychology of the unconscious (80% of the human psyche) to discover the properties of magic only by accident? or use something that completely unconsciously? Is it possible at all?

3) or magical properties may be associated with a particular type of enigmatic personalities such. empathetic, self-contradictory? eg. the legendary INFJ, Celtic culture, etc.?

eg. causing someone forgets terribly broken heart for love, not knowing anything about him and his situation, etc.

4) Do the Celts practiced singular, individual magic in their operations?

5) Was he or she below some magician?



thank in advance for any answer

 

[Quintessence]

None of what you've posted here seems to have anything to do with Celtic mythology, and I'm sorry, but the grammar here is so bad I can't really understand what you're asking. You might want to ask the staff to delete this thread and try again when you're not using a smartphone or something.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

Hi,
Can I ask something because this issue bothering me, please..

I do not mean any specific beliefs (such as esp. Celtic or Wicca, etc) only in general..

So:
1) do anyone know, believe it or only THINK that it is possible, esp. some cases (eg. in literature or story) about love defender positive witches in process of witchcraft??? Or they met for the reincarnation in the next life, somehow.. or something like that..

eg. this story: http://www.amazon.com/Black-Body-H-C-Turk/dp/0517068893/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8

eg no 2:

2) how is the issue of the psychology of the unconscious (80% of the human psyche) to discover the properties of magic only by accident? or use something that completely unconsciously? Is it possible at all?

3) or magical properties may be associated with a particular type of enigmatic personalities such. empathetic, self-contradictory? eg. the legendary INFJ, Celtic culture, etc.?

eg. causing someone forgets terribly broken heart for love, not knowing anything about him and his situation, etc.

4) Do the Celts practiced singular, individual magic in their operations?

5) Was he or she below some magician?

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thank in advance for any answer

The majority of these are beliefs attributed to the Celts in the modern day without anthropological backing.

The rest of this is simply intelligible.

 

[jugi]

Check this eg: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druidess_(Celtic_mythology)

and this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_Christianity#Monasticism

 

[jugi]

and this http://www.celticbuddhism.org/Introduction to Celtic Wisdom and the Anam Cara Principle.pdf

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

Check this eg: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druidess_(Celtic_mythology)

and this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_Christianity#Monasticism

First of all neither of these backs up your claims and also Wikipeida is not a valid source.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

and this http://www.celticbuddhism.org/Introduction to Celtic Wisdom and the Anam Cara Principle.pdf

This is not a source of anthropological information.

 

[Maponos]

Ahem..

Most 'druidesses' probably weren't actual druids but female priestesses or cultists. Throughout written accounts of the druids, they've all been described a solely male.

'Fairies' are most obviously the remnants of polytheistic beliefs in spirits in nature and other deities.

Virtually nothing is known of any occult practices of the ancient Celts.

 

[Mindmaster]

Ahem..

Most 'druidesses' probably weren't actual druids but female priestesses or cultists. Throughout written accounts of the druids, they've all been described a solely male.

'Fairies' are most obviously the remnants of polytheistic beliefs in spirits in nature and other deities.

Virtually nothing is known of any occult practices of the ancient Celts.

I have to fix this for anyone else who is going to read, historical account regarding there being a female Druid (so this is the common thing):

Historia Augusta, Numerianus 14 (in translation from Latin)

I do not consider it too painstaking or yet too much in the ordinary manner to insert a story about Diocletian Augustus that seems not out of place here — an incident which he regarded as an omen of his future rule. This story my grandfather related to me, having heard it from Diocletian himself. "When Diocletian," he said, "while still serving in a minor post, was stopping at a certain tavern in the land of the Tungri in Gaul, and was making up his daily reckoning with a woman, who was a Druidess, she said to him, 'Diocletian, you are far too greedy and far too stingy,' to which Diocletian replied, it is said, not in earnest, but only in jest, 'I shall be generous enough when I become emperor.' At this the Druidess said, so he related, 'Do not jest, Diocletian, for you will become emperor when you have slain The Boar [Aper].' " (15) Now Diocletian always had in his mind a desire to rule, as Maximian knew and my grandfather also, to whom he himself told these words of the Druidess. Then, however, reticent, as was his wont, he laughed and said nothing. Nevertheless, in hunting, whenever there was opportunity, he always killed the boars with his very own hand. In fact, when Aurelian received the imperial power, then Probus, then Tacitus, and then Carus himself, Diocletian remarked, "I am always killing boars, but the other man enjoys the meat." It is now well known and a common story that when he had killed Aper, the prefect of the guard, he declared, it is said, "At last I have killed my fated Boar." My grandfather also used to say that Diocletian himself declared that he had no other reason for killing him with his own hand than to fulfill the Druidess' prophecy and to ensure his own rule. For he would not have wished to become known for such cruelty, especially in the first few days of his power, if Fate had not impelled him to this brutal act of murder.

Druidess is a modern term, coined around the 18th century, it doesn't have a historical use. There was no misogyny in these Celtic cultures like there is in the Roman, so all Druids are Druids regardless of gender. The Celts did not differentiate much like we do not have Doctoresses and Lawyeresses for females in esteemed professions.

As far as the practical we know quite a bit about what they did, just not how exactly they are doing it. So, we do our best to come up with practices in spiritual succession to those ideas regardless. Some of the Celtic wisdom however survived when there were Christian scholar write-ups when people were remembering their past -- it's not a complete crap shoot. Also, many of the tall tails contain nuggets of these methods.

 

[Riverwolf]

Check this eg: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druidess_(Celtic_mythology)

and this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_Christianity#Monasticism

First of all neither of these backs up your claims and also Wikipeida is not a valid source.

Addendum: Wikipedia is not a reliable primary source. It can be useful as a starting point from which to be relayed to other sources, all of which are linked at the bottom of the pages, as well as providing a broad introduction to a given topic.

But, well, if the only part of a book you read is the introduction, then you're missing out on 99% of the book's contents.

1) do anyone know, believe it or only THINK that it is possible, esp. some cases (eg. in literature or story) about love defender positive witches in process of witchcraft??? Or they met for the reincarnation in the next life, somehow.. or something like that..

Reincarnation is a largely Asian concept, particularly Central and East Asian. Historical witches were Northern European, the word "witch" being descended from an Anglo-Saxon (Old English) word.

When it comes to those historical witches, the simple fact is that we don't really know anything for certain about what they believed and practiced.

When it comes to modern witches, their beliefs and practices are highly varied, such that it's not really possible to accurately make broad statements about them.

2) how is the issue of the psychology of the unconscious (80% of the human psyche) to discover the properties of magic only by accident? or use something that completely unconsciously? Is it possible at all?

I'm afraid you'll have to clarify what you mean by "psychology", "psyche", and "magic", here, because those words can mean very different things depending on context.

3) or magical properties may be associated with a particular type of enigmatic personalities such. empathetic, self-contradictory? eg. the legendary INFJ, Celtic culture, etc.?

I have no idea why you're equating modern personality categorizations (which are necessarily broad and vague) to entire groups of cultures. While people in given cultures might tend to exhibit certain dominant behaviors, everyone in them is an individual, and will be unique unto themselves.

4) Do the Celts practiced singular, individual magic in their operations?

Who are these "Celts" in your view?

For reference, the Academic understanding of "Celtic" is that it's largely a linguistic term. That is to say, a "Celt" is someone who speaks a Celtic language. Today, there are six Celtic languages. Irish in Ireland & Northern Ireland, Scottish in Scotland, Welsh in Wales, Cornish in Cornwall, Manx in the Isle of Man (no, not the English word "man", but the Manx word "Mannin" which might mean "mountain"), and Breton in Brittany, France. Besides all being Celtic, the other thing that these languages have in common is that they're severely endangered.

Historically, it's much muddier as to who was considered "Celtic", though it's generally accepted that at the time Caesar lived, Celtic-speaking peoples lived in Gaul, the Iberian Penninsula, Brittain, Ireland, and the region South of the Danube River. But these were all very distinctive Tribes with widely varying cultures.

The famous Queen Boudica, for example, was of the Icenni Tribe, while my Irish ancestors might have been the Darinoi Tribe. And for a rather hilarious note, it's possible (not certain, possible) that the Garman and Teuton Tribes, whose names are currently used to collectively refer to the Germanic/Teutonic language family (of which English is part), might have actually been speakers of Celtic languages. LOL

5) Was he or she below some magician?

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I have no idea who that is. Judging by the fashion, this person looks to be a Native American or First Nations person, though I can't be certain, nor could I say which Nation. However, if that is the case, then unless this person's occupation was as a stage magician, then no. The term "magician" outside of the stage form is largely European, and should therefore only be applied to Europeans. For other cultures, use their own languages' terms for whatever the equivalents might be, if there even are any.

 

[Maponos]

About who the Celts were: there were an ancient civilization that most likely began in the west of France who became very prominent during the Iron Age and were of an Atlantic genetic heritage. This book is invaluable. To reduce the Celts to people who spoke a Celtic language is doing them a huge disservice.

 

[Riverwolf]

About who the Celts were: there were an ancient civilization that most likely began in the west of France who became very prominent during the Iron Age and were of an Atlantic genetic heritage. This book is invaluable. To reduce the Celts to people who spoke a Celtic language is doing them a huge disservice.

How is it reductive? This great civilization spoke several Celtic languages, did they not?

 

[Maponos]

How is it reductive? This great civilization spoke several Celtic languages, did they not?

That doesn't make them completely distinct peoples.

 

[Riverwolf]

That doesn't make them completely distinct peoples.

I'm afraid I don't understand where you're coming from. I merely repeated my understanding of the Academic conception. In hindsight, qualifying their distinctiveness with "widely" may not have been the best choice of words, since what little I know of these people is largely limited to Gaul, Britain, and Ireland; I don't know enough to judge the exact degree to which they were distinct or homogeneous. However, my choice of words was largely for the sake of counteracting the frequent tendency to anachronistically apply the modern idea of "nation-state" to these pre-modern peoples. Certainly they shared a pan-culture, but so does Western Civilization, and I think people would be quite annoyed at the suggestion that the English people and French people are not distinct, despite both being part of this same wider civilization.