Challenge for Those who believe that all Languages were not taught directly by God to Man

[sayak83]

It is obvious is it not that all languages are directly taught by God to Man? For all those who believe that languages arise naturally from older languages are obviously deluded. For example just think:-
1) Can these language evolutionists identify who was the first speaker of English language. And how did she speak that language if her mother was not an English speaker? Huh! Gotcha linguists!
2) Can the linguists identify the vocabulary of the first english speaker? What were his words. How did he communicate with all the non-English speakers around him? Huh! That makes no sense! Gotcha again!
3) Where are the 100s of missing link languages between all these older and newer language. They are all missing aren't they? All books are written either in English or Latin or Germanic. Where are the missing links!!
4) And they can't even tell how the first language came from non-language. If so, what was the first language and tell me the name of the person who spoke it? Where is it recorded!

Hence it is proved that God taught every language that has ever existed in history directly. Its irrefutable proof. There!

Isn't it?

Debating
Counterfeit Reasons

 

[Heyo]

If there was only one god, it would have spoken only one language. And since all languages are directly taught by gods to man, it follows logically there had to have been multiple gods, at least as many as there are languages.
Monotheism debunked.

 

[sayak83]

If there was only one god, it would have spoken only one language. And since all languages are directly taught by gods to man, it follows logically there had to have been multiple gods, at least as many as there are languages.
Monotheism debunked.

True indeed. I stand corrected. Its the Gods to whom we must credit our languages.
Which God speaks in English in your opinion?

 

[SalixIncendium]

Which God speaks in English in your opinion?

None of them. It was a collaborative between Odin and Jupiter passed down for us peasants to speak.

 

[Secret Chief]

It is obvious is it not that all languages are directly taught by God to Man? For all those who believe that languages arise naturally from older languages are obviously deluded. For example just think:-
1) Can these language evolutionists identify who was the first speaker of English language. And how did she speak that language if her mother was not an English speaker? Huh! Gotcha linguists!
2) Can the linguists identify the vocabulary of the first english speaker? What were his words. How did he communicate with all the non-English speakers around him? Huh! That makes no sense! Gotcha again!
3) Where are the 100s of missing link languages between all these older and newer language. They are all missing aren't they? All books are written either in English or Latin or Germanic. Where are the missing links!!
4) And they can't even tell how the first language came from non-language. If so, what was the first language and tell me the name of the person who spoke it? Where is it recorded!

Hence it is proved that God taught every language that has ever existed in history directly. Its irrefutable proof. There!

Isn't it?

Debating
Counterfeit Reasons

Do you feel unwell?

 

[sayak83]

Do you feel unwell?

No. I am doing a reductio.

If a set of debating strategy can be used to prove what is patently absurd, then that debating strategy itself is patently absurd.

 

[Esteban X]

It is obvious is it not that all languages are directly taught by God to Man? For all those who believe that languages arise naturally from older languages are obviously deluded. For example just think:-
1) Can these language evolutionists identify who was the first speaker of English language. And how did she speak that language if her mother was not an English speaker? Huh! Gotcha linguists!
2) Can the linguists identify the vocabulary of the first english speaker? What were his words. How did he communicate with all the non-English speakers around him? Huh! That makes no sense! Gotcha again!
3) Where are the 100s of missing link languages between all these older and newer language. They are all missing aren't they? All books are written either in English or Latin or Germanic. Where are the missing links!!
4) And they can't even tell how the first language came from non-language. If so, what was the first language and tell me the name of the person who spoke it? Where is it recorded!

Hence it is proved that God taught every language that has ever existed in history directly. Its irrefutable proof. There!

Isn't it?

Debating
Counterfeit Reasons

This is a joke, right?

 

[sayak83]

This is a joke, right?

See post #6

 

[Esteban X]

See post #6

My apologies. I replied before I read that far

I thought as much, but I had to make sure

 

[Yazata]

It is obvious is it not that all languages are directly taught by God to Man?

It isn't obvious to me.

For all those who believe that languages arise naturally from older languages are obviously deluded. For example just think:-
1) Can these language evolutionists identify who was the first speaker of English language. And how did she speak that language if her mother was not an English speaker? Huh! Gotcha linguists!

Just by their nature as mediums of communication, languages are spoken by populations, not just by individuals.

If the English language is continually changing, then we would seem to be faced with the problem of how much change in a language is possible while still identifying it as the same language. (Perhaps analogous to the species problem in biology.) Is Old English really the same language as English today? (It isn't comprehensible to modern English speakers and it's more akin in some ways to Proto-Germanic or something like that.)

2) Can the linguists identify the vocabulary of the first english speaker? What were his words. How did he communicate with all the non-English speakers around him? Huh! That makes no sense! Gotcha again!

There are surviving writings in Old English. There are dictionaries of the language. So in some cases the answer is yes. It's harder with languages that were spoken before writing appeared. But linguists have tried to reconstruct some of the vocabulary of Old Indo-European, the hypothetical ancestor of all the Indo-European languages. They do that by observing similarities between today's Indo-European languages and then attributing those similarities to the ancestor language of the languages that share the similarities. It's hard because of borrowing and stuff, but not only vocabularies but family trees of language descent can be (somewhat hypothetically) reconstructed.

3) Where are the 100s of missing link languages between all these older and newer language. They are all missing aren't they? All books are written either in English or Latin or Germanic. Where are the missing links!!

Middle English, Shakespearian English, 18th century English. There aren't any missing links with languages for which a written literature exists for each period.

4) And they can't even tell how the first language came from non-language. If so, what was the first language and tell me the name of the person who spoke it? Where is it recorded!

It wasn't recorded, since it was all oral (presumably). There are lots of theories about what the first protolanguage was like among whatever hominins first used it. But nobody really knows. My guess is that an increasingly complex system of grunts originated far back in the human family tree.

Hence it is proved that God taught every language that has ever existed in history directly. Its irrefutable proof. There!

Isn't it?

I think that the possibility space still exists for a theory that God was the originator of whatever the first language was and for raising those early human ancestors to the level of language using animals. Setting them on the path to intelligence. Or even for the idea that God subsequently guided the evolution of language down to the present. Those aren't hypotheses that I personally embrace, but they still remain possibilities I guess.

But that isn't proof by any means.

 

[shunyadragon]

True indeed. I stand corrected. Its the Gods to whom we must credit our languages.
Which God speaks in English in your opinion?

King James of course.

Actually, considering the diverse conflicting religions and their variants fallible humans make a great effort to teach the God(s) their language.

 

[shunyadragon]

It is obvious is it not that all languages are directly taught by God to Man? For all those who believe that languages arise naturally from older languages are obviously deluded. For example just think:-
1) Can these language evolutionists identify who was the first speaker of English language. And how did she speak that language if her mother was not an English speaker? Huh! Gotcha linguists!
2) Can the linguists identify the vocabulary of the first english speaker? What were his words. How did he communicate with all the non-English speakers around him? Huh! That makes no sense! Gotcha again!
3) Where are the 100s of missing link languages between all these older and newer language. They are all missing aren't they? All books are written either in English or Latin or Germanic. Where are the missing links!!
4) And they can't even tell how the first language came from non-language. If so, what was the first language and tell me the name of the person who spoke it? Where is it recorded!

Hence it is proved that God taught every language that has ever existed in history directly. Its irrefutable proof. There!

Isn't it?

Debating
Counterfeit Reasons

The first known books were written in Sumerian.The Epic of Gilgamesh.

Also. . . What Is The Oldest Written Text That Has Ever Been Found?

The earliest confirmed form of writing is recorded on a limestone tablet, known as the Kish tablet, which dates to around 3,500 BCE. The tablet was found on the site of an ancient Sumerian city called Kish, which is located in modern-day Iraq. The writing on its surface is purely pictographic and represents a mid-point between proto-writing and more sophisticated syllabic writing of the cuneiform (meaning “wedged shaped”) script. This remarkable object probably pre-dates Egyptian hieroglyphs by several centuries, and so appears to be the oldest recognized and decipherable written system used by humans.

Cuneiform was the most widespread and historically significant written system in the ancient Middle East and was used by numerous and different cultures – including the Assyrians, Akkadians, and the Babylonians – who had their own spoken languages. The writing was created by pushing reed styluses into a moist clay to create wedge-shaped indents that, when combined in different ways, could stand for different spoken syllables that formed distinct words when put together. Later, scribes would chisel cuneiform into all sorts of stone objects too.

The writing system was in use for around 3,000 years and produced hundreds of thousands of clay tablets and inscribed objects. It was only in the early 19th century, however, that archaeologists rediscovered many of them and effort turned to making deciphering and translating their meaning.

Obviously, the Gods spoke Sumerian.

 

[sun rise]

Middle English, Shakespearian English, 18th century English. There aren't any missing links with languages for which a written literature exists for each period.

Clearly God is doing that every step in the way. God teaches people slang, memes and the like and then ensures that they become part of the language.

 

[Bthoth]

It is obvious is it not that all languages are directly taught by God to Man?

NO. dada, moma..... Parents

For all those who believe that languages arise naturally from older languages are obviously deluded. For example just think:-
1) Can these language evolutionists identify who was the first speaker of English language. And how did she speak that language if her mother was not an English speaker? Huh! Gotcha linguists!

Did a god teach you?

2) Can the linguists identify the vocabulary of the first english speaker? What were his words. How did he communicate with all the non-English speakers around him? Huh! That makes no sense! Gotcha again!

What's the gotcha? Each of us learned from our parents and teachers.......... Basic common sense.

3) Where are the 100s of missing link languages between all these older and newer language. They are all missing aren't they? All books are written either in English or Latin or Germanic. Where are the missing links!!

Great question, perhaps you could dig up the rock art to help us. If no one records the language developments then like most memories, the information is gone.

4) And they can't even tell how the first language came from non-language.

That is why stories are written, to help the next generations learn from what they thought.

If so, what was the first language and tell me the name of the person who spoke it? Where is it recorded!

That's the gotcha. You know the answer too as basic common sense when realizing that not all foundations are recorded.

Hence it is proved that God taught every language that has ever existed in history directly. Its irrefutable proof. There!

No, as until a child learns how to read and articulate the basics from the previous generation/parents/teachers, just like you did.

Isn't it?

No, just be honest and it's easy.

The question is 'how to help others be honest before belief?'

Even the story of adam naming his wife Eve, is man made and before anyone can even read it, They must learn from another.

 

[sun rise]

No. I am doing a reductio.

If a set of debating strategy can be used to prove what is patently absurd, then that debating strategy itself is patently absurd.

NO. dada, moma..... Parents

You missed @sayak83 's comment that this is not a serious assertion on his part but is pointing out the absurdity of that kind of argument.

 

[Secret Chief]

It is obvious is it not that all languages are directly taught by God to Man? For all those who believe that languages arise naturally from older languages are obviously deluded. For example just think:-
1) Can these language evolutionists identify who was the first speaker of English language. And how did she speak that language if her mother was not an English speaker? Huh! Gotcha linguists!
2) Can the linguists identify the vocabulary of the first english speaker? What were his words. How did he communicate with all the non-English speakers around him? Huh! That makes no sense! Gotcha again!
3) Where are the 100s of missing link languages between all these older and newer language. They are all missing aren't they? All books are written either in English or Latin or Germanic. Where are the missing links!!
4) And they can't even tell how the first language came from non-language. If so, what was the first language and tell me the name of the person who spoke it? Where is it recorded!

Hence it is proved that God taught every language that has ever existed in history directly. Its irrefutable proof. There!

Isn't it?

Debating
Counterfeit Reasons

Yer wah?

 

[Bthoth]

You missed @sayak83 's comment that this is not a serious assertion on his part but is pointing out the absurdity of that kind of argument.

I could agree with the joke

 

[Khabeni412]

This must be satire. We know exactly how language evolved. Just like there was no "original" human in evolution there was no first English speaker. I challenge creationists to come up with one claim that isn't a lie, misrepresentation or logical fallacy.

 

[sayak83]

This must be satire. We know exactly how language evolved. Just like there was no "original" human in evolution there was no first English speaker. I challenge creationists to come up with one claim that isn't a lie, misrepresentation or logical fallacy.

Yes it is satire.

 

[stvdv]

It is obvious is it not that all languages are directly taught by God to Man? For all those who believe that languages arise naturally from older languages are obviously deluded. For example just think:-
1) Can these language evolutionists identify who was the first speaker of English language. And how did she speak that language if her mother was not an English speaker? Huh! Gotcha linguists!
2) Can the linguists identify the vocabulary of the first english speaker? What were his words. How did he communicate with all the non-English speakers around him? Huh! That makes no sense! Gotcha again!
3) Where are the 100s of missing link languages between all these older and newer language. They are all missing aren't they? All books are written either in English or Latin or Germanic. Where are the missing links!!
4) And they can't even tell how the first language came from non-language. If so, what was the first language and tell me the name of the person who spoke it? Where is it recorded!

Hence it is proved that God taught every language that has ever existed in history directly. Its irrefutable proof. There!

Isn't it?

Debating
Counterfeit Reasons

Challenge for Those who believe that all Languages were not taught directly by God to Man

Good luck to those trying to prove that️

Glad the challenge does not apply to me