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Challenge: Make Your Case for Creationism

leibowde84

Veteran Member
So, my belief, ie /1/, has the burden of proof against against.../0/? Sorry, that doesn't make sense. /0/ is not an applicable position or stance to warrant burden of proof against.
I'm not arguing against your claim. I'm asking why you believe it to be accurate.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Is there evidence that Creation did not occur?

There is evidence biblical mythology occurred ?


Can you present evidence that Creationism is incorrect?

Can you present evidence mythology is correct?

So, my belief, ie /1/, has the burden of proof against against.../0/? Sorry, that doesn't make sense. /0/ is not an applicable position or stance to warrant burden of proof against.

Non sequitur

No god exist scientifically. Burden of proof is on you as we don't or cannot have to prove mythology is real. YOU don't get to dictate circular logic here.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
And the argument I am presenting, is that I have no reason to believe it is not accurate.

Refusing academia is personal problem, it is one of severe fanaticism and fundamentalism.

No one can debate with people that state 1 + 1 = 47 because their ancient religious book said so.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Naturalism and naturalistic evolution are based on abstract and speculative reason

We require honesty here, and we require people to source their comments with credible sources.

YOUR statement is false to the point of being factually in error.

They are both based on observed facts and a literal mountain of factual evidence.

START PROVIDING CREDIBLE SOURCES personal biased opinion is worthless.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
And the argument I am presenting, is that I have no reason to believe it is not accurate.
But, you haven't even expressed what you believe. How do you define creationism? Are you a young-earther? Do you believe in the creation story of Genesis? Adam and Eve?

I would like to discuss this further, as I find it interesting, but you have to at least let me know what you actually believe. Can you provide this information for me?
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
Don't hold your breath, he has never done that in the 5 + years ive been here.

He stays on ignore for said reasons of constant biased rhetoric with no credible sources.
How can one live with themselves after responding to the request for support for their argument with, "I see no evidence to not believe it". That is the very definition of confirmation bias, circular logic, and shows a vast amount of disrespect for our fellow RF members. If you can't support your claim, don't express it on a debate forum, for God's sake.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
How can one live with themselves after responding to the request for support for their argument with, "I see no evidence to not believe it". That is the very definition of confirmation bias, circular logic, and shows a vast amount of disrespect for our fellow RF members. If you can't support your claim, don't express it on a debate forum, for God's sake.

Ignore was the only option, as peaceful communication could not be had.

I chock it up to one of the many facets of severe fanaticism.
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
But, you haven't even expressed what you believe. How do you define creationism? Are you a young-earther? Do you believe in the creation story of Genesis? Adam and Eve?

I would like to discuss this further, as I find it interesting, but you have to at least let me know what you actually believe. Can you provide this information for me?

Yes, I have expressed that i'm a Creationist. That is what I believe, and it is my ''default'' position. So, anything beyond that is merely taking us off topic. In order for me to be convinced of your position, your going to have to present evidence.
 
Yes, I have expressed that i'm a Creationist. That is what I believe, and it is my ''default'' position. So, anything beyond that is merely taking us off topic. In order for me to be convinced of your position, your going to have to present evidence.
Were you born a creationist?
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
Then it wouldn't be a default would it?

Huh? I said I can't remember that, and it has no bearing on the topic. Creationism is my default position, as I stated, so if you want, you can infer that I was 'born' a creationist. I take it that non-Creationists remember that they were 'born', non-Creationists?

ie this is a nonsensical, and unanswerable question. Our ''default'' position, is the one we hold from our logic and belief.
 
Huh? I said I can't remember that, and it has no bearing on the topic. Creationism is my default position, as I stated, so if you want, you can infer that I was 'born' a creationist. I take it that non-Creationists remember that they were 'born', non-Creationists?

ie this is a nonsensical, and unanswerable question. Our ''default'' position, is the one we hold from our logic and belief.
I mean are you innately a creationist? Or were you taught this position?
 

outhouse

Atheistically
You are innately a creationist? If you were born in a different place with different beliefs you would innately still believe as you do now? What part is innate and what part is not-innate?

Your not going to get many straight answers from him bud.
 
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