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Changes in Young Worlds

Jayhawker Soule

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Premium Member
Cursive Hebrew always looked (to me) like stenographer's shorthand. On the other hand, the ancient Hebrew script with the crowned letters that you see in the holy books is beautiful. I see that in your profile picture -- although when I first came here, I couldn't make out what it said because both ends of the word are cut off in that circle. Have you thought of making that into a banner for your profile? A banner would display the entire word of "shalom."

Here's a pic of the Shema prayer on a golden pendant that I have. I thought it was beautifully creative the way the artist got all the Hebrew words in the circle like that (even though I don't think I can read them all.)
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A banner would certainly be more readable. On the other hand, the intent was to focus on the "broken-vav" (from Parashat Pinchas).
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
Cursive Hebrew always looked (to me) like stenographer's shorthand. On the other hand, the ancient Hebrew script with the crowned letters that you see in the holy books is beautiful. I see that in your profile picture -- although when I first came here, I couldn't make out what it said because both ends of the word are cut off in that circle. Have you thought of making that into a banner for your profile? A banner would display the entire word of "shalom."

Here's a pic of the Shema prayer on a golden pendant that I have. I thought it was beautifully creative the way the artist got all the Hebrew words in the circle like that (even though I don't think I can read them all.)
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Nice picture. But the real experts at this are the muslims.
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
Cursive is also essential for legal signatures and the like.

I can't imagine just how dumb it looks for a person to just print their name instead of signing it on a legally binding document.

Signatures are often/generally unintelligible already, so it doesn't matter.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Cursive Hebrew always looked (to me) like stenographer's shorthand. On the other hand, the ancient Hebrew script with the crowned letters that you see in the holy books is beautiful. I see that in your profile picture -- although when I first came here, I couldn't make out what it said because both ends of the word are cut off in that circle. Have you thought of making that into a banner for your profile? A banner would display the entire word of "shalom."

Here's a pic of the Shema prayer on a golden pendant that I have. I thought it was beautifully creative the way the artist got all the Hebrew words in the circle like that (even though I don't think I can read them all.)
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A banner would certainly be more readable. On the other hand, the intent was to focus on the "broken-vav" (from Parashat Pinchas).

I'm kinda lucky because all Arabic script is cursive, so we can't avoid learning it.

I know how to write in the two most used Arabic scripts: naskh and ruq'ah.

Naskh:

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Ruq'ah (same text; it's a Qur'anic verse):

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Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Cursive is also essential for legal signatures and the like.

I can't imagine just how dumb it looks for a person to just print their name instead of signing it on a legally binding document.
Any mark chosen as representitive of an individual is a legal signature. There are many legally binding documents from a century ago signed with just an X.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Computers, cell phones, internet, and kids being plastered to a screen. The last time I heard of those things as adult things and not for kids was when my best friend and I were talking about our own childhoods and comparing them to kids today. Kids today are also incomparably better at web searches than my highschool class was (it was a younger teacher who showed us we suck at them, you can find information on it without going to the library, and we need to learn how to do them).
The interesting thing is it's not just younger than my age group, but older as well who have seemed to take to technology and social media way more than those around my age.
 

JustGeorge

Imperfect
Staff member
Premium Member
Computers, cell phones, internet, and kids being plastered to a screen. The last time I heard of those things as adult things and not for kids was when my best friend and I were talking about our own childhoods and comparing them to kids today. Kids today are also incomparably better at web searches than my highschool class was (it was a younger teacher who showed us we suck at them, you can find information on it without going to the library, and we need to learn how to do them).
The interesting thing is it's not just younger than my age group, but older as well who have seemed to take to technology and social media way more than those around my age.
I often ask either of the older kids to help me with tech stuff...
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Cursive is also essential for legal signatures and the like.

I can't imagine just how dumb it looks for a person to just print their name instead of signing it on a legally binding document.
Noone has had an issue with me doing regular print initials over these past couple months as my shoulder has worsened. It's that or use my left hand, and the writting quality for that hand still looks like my right hand did in the second grade learning cursive.
And my signature isn't regular cursive anyways. It hasn't been since highschool, where I based my signature on a font I liked with sime cursive to add some flair to my signature when signing art projects. But it ended up becoming my regular signature.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I often ask either of the older kids to help me with tech stuff...
I often ask my nieces and nephews. About technology, what things mean, the thinkings amd whys behind certain things.
The liking of dark comedy is where things are seemlessly bridged and understood with my youngest two.:tearsofjoy:
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Setting aside the question of cursive and handwriting, I'd say "screen time" is more a concern in general overall, inside or outside the classroom. I may sound like some old fart, but I don't think so. It applies to myself as much as anyone, let alone kids growing up with constant access to the tech.

I make a point to be more observant in life, for instance as I'm out walking around, or just sitting on a bench in a park, etc. It has to do with being a part of the world, feeling connected with it. Being present in the moment. And I look around and see people walking by the beautiful lake with their faces down towards the screens on the phone, headphones on, and totally not present in the moment whatsoever.

This sort of thing I fully believe creates anxiety for us. It's bad enough when we are lost inside our heads, inside of "thought world" as I call it, and not in the real world surrounding us, but then add we're walking with our heads down facing a lit screen, reading texts, and just walking around periferrially just enough to maybe avoid running into other screen-walkers, I'll now term them. This is a **** way to live.

So as a child growing up, developmentally, I cannot image this is psychologically healthy for them. I can't believe it is socially healthy either. And if these are out of whack, then so too will their bodies eventually be effected in negative health down the road. I believe in a whole body mind system balance. Too much tech can easily put things out of whack.

Granted it, we have to live with tech. It is part of our world now, I'm even on a screen typing right now, but it has to be countereffected by other, non-screen related activities - especially outdoors! I'd say they need to take off the blinders and be present in the moment. Be part of themselves as part of the world around them.
 

JustGeorge

Imperfect
Staff member
Premium Member
Setting aside the question of cursive and handwriting, I'd say "screen time" is more a concern in general overall, inside or outside the classroom. I may sound like some old fart, but I don't think so. It applies to myself as much as anyone, let alone kids growing up with constant access to the tech.

I make a point to be more observant in life, for instance as I'm out walking around, or just sitting on a bench in a park, etc. It has to do with being a part of the world, feeling connected with it. Being present in the moment. And I look around and see people walking by the beautiful lake with their faces down towards the screens on the phone, headphones on, and totally not present in the moment whatsoever.

This sort of thing I fully believe creates anxiety for us. It's bad enough when we are lost inside our heads, inside of "thought world" as I call it, and not in the real world surrounding us, but then add we're walking with our heads down facing a lit screen, reading texts, and just walking around periferrially just enough to maybe avoid running into other screen-walkers, I'll now term them. This is a **** way to live.

So as a child growing up, developmentally, I cannot image this is psychologically healthy for them. I can't believe it is socially healthy either. And if these are out of whack, then so to will their bodies eventually be effected in negative health down the road.

Granted it, we have to live with tech. It is part of our world now, I'm even on a screen typing right now, but it has to be countereffected by other, non-screen related activities - especially outdoors! I'd say they need to take off the blinders and be present in the moment. Be part of themselves as part of the world around them.
I remember being on a 'Christmas train' ride with my middle son; he was about 4/5ish. There was a woman in the seat in front of us with her two kids. She took a selfie with the two kids, and then spent the rest of the ride editing it, posting it on social media, and responding to comments. The kids seemed engaged, at least.
 
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