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Chaos and Order

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Interesting that order is derived from chaos, light from darkness.

take 7 notes and play them in random order and they seem rather simple and dull. play them in an order and repeat. they can become a symphony, a song of beauty for some and still just noise for another....


so are we making something from no thing, or is it just chaos, darkness, and noise still? so then is reality at times very subjective? like life imitating art?


 

Phantasman

Well-Known Member
Yep. Jesus described it to John when he entered it to save the Jews who had died before truth and light came to man (as Christ):

"And I went into the realm of darkness and I endured till I entered the middle of the prison. And the foundations of chaos shook. And I hid myself from them because of their wickedness, and they did not recognize me.

"Again I returned for the second time, and I went about. I came forth from those who belong to the light, which is I, the remembrance of the Pronoia. I entered into the midst of darkness and the inside of Hades, since I was seeking (to accomplish) my task. And the foundations of chaos shook, that they might fall down upon those who are in chaos and might destroy them. And again I ran up to my root of light, lest they be destroyed before the time.

"Still for a third time I went - I am the light which exists in the light, I am the remembrance of the Pronoia - that I might enter into the midst of darkness and the inside of Hades. And I filled my face with the light of the completion of their aeon. And I entered into the midst of their prison, which is the prison of the body. And I said, 'He who hears, let him get up from the deep sleep.' And he wept and shed tears. Bitter tears he wiped from himself and he said, 'Who is it that calls my name, and from where has this hope come to me, while I am in the chains of the prison?' And I said, 'I am the Pronoia of the pure light; I am the thinking of the virginal Spirit, who raised you up to the honored place. Arise and remember that it is you who hearkened, and follow your root, which is I, the merciful one, and guard yourself against the angels of poverty and the demons of chaos and all those who ensnare you, and beware of the deep sleep and the enclosure of the inside of Hades.- Secret John
 

Phantasman

Well-Known Member
Matthew records the above event:
Matthew 27:
51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;

52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
 

dfnj

Well-Known Member
Interesting that order is derived from chaos, light from darkness.

take 7 notes and play them in random order and they seem rather simple and dull. play them in an order and repeat. they can become a symphony, a song of beauty for some and still just noise for another....


so are we making something from no thing, or is it just chaos, darkness, and noise still? so then is reality at times very subjective? like life imitating art?



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1213

Well-Known Member
Interesting that order is derived from chaos, light from darkness.

How could light come from darkness? I don’t think it is possible, nor do I think order comes from chaos.

Or what do you think, can you make a plan without ideas that are in order?
 

Sleeppy

Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
Chaos is only an appearance of randomness or disorder. It is reliant on perspective.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
How could light come from darkness? I don’t think it is possible, nor do I think order comes from chaos.

Or what do you think, can you make a plan without ideas that are in order?

mystery came first
understanding came second

love is a mystery

Daniel 2:22
He reveals deep and hidden things; he knows what lies in darkness, and light dwells with him.

darkness came first genesis 1:2
light came second genesis 1:3

with love comes light

ALLAHU AKBAR

the awe of love is the beginning of wisdom

1 Kings 8:12
Then spake Solomon, The Lord said that he would dwell in the thick darkness.

Oh, to see without my eyes
The first time that you kissed me
Boundless by the time I cried
I built your walls around me
White noise, what an awful sound
Fumbling by Rogue River
Feel my feet above the ground
Hand of God, deliver me

 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Not for all.

He who doesn't love doesn't know God, for God is love.
1 John 4:8



When you understand that darkness is like emptiness, nothing, you understand it didn’t come.


No, we declare God's wisdom, a mystery that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began.

thus daniel sealed the book, himself. emptiness is like silence. i have a secret.


mystery


dark matter and dark energy aren't nothing


It turns out that roughly 68% of the universe is dark energy. Dark matter makes up about 27%. The rest - everything on Earth, everything ever observed is 5%
 
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