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Children and Transitioning

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
That's where the debate is going to go. That "yet to be determined" point of no return.

I think at that point of no return, ie; cannot be reversed or undone, should be made at his or her consent at least with an age where such consent includes a full understanding with all consequences and repercussions should and when such things occur.

I think the only exception at a super young age might be made in case of hermaphrodites.
So does that mean you would have no objection to the use of puberty blocking medication that have no permanent effect but simply delay the development of secondary sexual characteristics?
 

Vee

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I can't be okay with a child going through a change of gender, and that's due to what I consider to be good sense.
The human brain takes many years to be completely formed. I can't believe that a child truly knows what they want, so allowing and encouraging them to make such a drastic change can, long term, become very dangerous.
I accept that some people feel wrong in their body. That's a fact. However, they need to reach a certain degree of maturity before they're sure that hormonal treatments and irreversible body changes are the best choice.
Changing gender comes with years if therapy, surgeries to change one's appearance which, by the way will result in infertility so they need to understand and be okay with never having children, and a very important point that in my opinion should be emphasized a lot more: the hormonal treatments are for the rest of their lives. It doesn't matter how many surgeries they have and how much they might look like the other gender, until science can change their DNA, the change of gender will continue to depend on hormones.
Now, hormones have an impact in all functions of the human body so messing up with their balance can come with very heavy consequences health wise. Gender changes are a recent thing so only time will tell what the hormonal treatments will do to people in the long run. Is it worth the risk? An adult can make that choice. It is their body after all. But a child? If they're not old enough to drive or have a job, should they be making this kind of decision? I don't think so and if it was my child I wouldn't allow it.
 

idea

Question Everything
Hmmm... Do you think it's of no importance how we present ourselves, or that it doesn't effect our self esteem or the ways we identify with ourselves in our environments? I think this is an issue that might just go a little more deeper than skin deep (no puns here :D).

Honestly, if I was forced to present myself in a way I didn't like, I would be unhappy... I want to be able to be me.

I'm sure we would all love to be forever young and beautiful... as someone with family who has unfixable deformities, for me and how I've grown up, those who focus and obsess on outward appearance are triggering.
 
Also not an expert, but from what I have been told and read going through puberty as the “wrong” gender can be extremely traumatic. You can imagine a young person who identifies as a male going through puberty and developing a female body or vice versa.

I think it is important for the good of the child that some kind of treatment begin early, even if it is just to delay puberty.


This is the problem

For some people transitioning earlier would be good and would help them greatly.

For some people transitioning early would be a mistake as they have to detransition causing significant harm.

I have no idea about the percentages between the two, or about what the morally correct decision is regarding minors transitioning given some people benefit and others are harmed.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
This is the problem

For some people transitioning earlier would be good and would help them greatly.

For some people transitioning early would be a mistake as they have to detransition causing significant harm.

I have no idea about the percentages between the two, or about what the morally correct decision is regarding minors transitioning given some people benefit and others are harmed.
Which is why in the case of minor children these decisions should be made by those who know the situation, have the child’s best interest in mind and are informed by experts as to the physiological and psychological impact of any action taken.

These decisions should not be made by politicians who are ignorant of both the specific issues and the general reality and are trying to promote a political ideology and score points.
 
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