Children separated from illegal parents

[1137]

I see a lot of talk about how evil Trump is for separating children from families when kicking illegal immigrants out of the country. It kind of baffles me. Here an individual who committed a crime is being punished for it and the child remains free of their sin. Which would you prefer, sending the kids back too? I'm one who agrees that any good intentioned person should be able to get citizenship quickly, but a crime is a crime is it not? It's illegal immigration. I think that not punishing the children is wonderful.

 

[Quintessence]

I don't see what's baffling about it. The children hardly remain free from the "sin" of illegal immigration if their parents are deported but they remain. Loosing your parent - having your family torn apart - has serious personal and emotional consequences. I'd hardly blame people for casting those who are dismissive of that as "evil."

 

[Sunstone]

I'm glad someone at last agrees with me that forcibly depriving children of their parents even at notably young ages is a positively good thing. The keen moral insight of the OP is downright refreshing in this depraved age of "anything goes". Cheers, I say! Cheers for having summoned the moral guts to kindly, but so unnecessarily, place the law above flesh and blood!

 

[Subduction Zone]

One problem is that the current administration does not put the right spin on the news. For example a baby girl separated from her mother while breast feeding could be changed to saving a women from a lesbian sexual assault where the victims breasts were grabbed and her nipples bitten.

You have to admit that that sounds a lot better than ripping away a baby from her mother's breast.

 

[Estro Felino]

There are great contradictions in the American immigration policy. The American citizenship is granted at birth by ius soli, which practically means to give away the status of citizenship to cats and dogs.

Whereas in Europe, citizenship is acquired by ius sanguinis, which means to be more selective.

In this case...the separation wouldn't be necessary any more.

 

[tytlyf]

How do you know the people coming over the border 'illegally' know the laws of America?

 

[Thief]

I see a lot of talk about how evil Trump is for separating children from families when kicking illegal immigrants out of the country. It kind of baffles me. Here an individual who committed a crime is being punished for it and the child remains free of their sin. Which would you prefer, sending the kids back too? I'm one who agrees that any good intentioned person should be able to get citizenship quickly, but a crime is a crime is it not? It's illegal immigration. I think that not punishing the children is wonderful.

separating child and parent.........................

I think the law has gone too far
it should be simple
ask the parent

be with your child in your home country
or go to jail ......as someone else takes your place

 

[Thief]

place the law above flesh and blood!

can't help but ask.....

really?

 

[George-ananda]

I see a lot of talk about how evil Trump is for separating children from families when kicking illegal immigrants out of the country. It kind of baffles me. Here an individual who committed a crime is being punished for it and the child remains free of their sin. Which would you prefer, sending the kids back too? I'm one who agrees that any good intentioned person should be able to get citizenship quickly, but a crime is a crime is it not? It's illegal immigration. I think that not punishing the children is wonderful.

Yes, I get a bit angry with the liberal ploy of referring to people in the country illegally as 'immigrants'! Or as 'undocumented aliens'.

Do these so-called liberals want no immigration laws or what? They never seem to answer that question

 

[1137]

Family is indeed important. Family also isn't necessarily blood, and it also isn't everything by a long shot. When a young child's parents are sent to prison, should the child go to prison with them? It's easy to sit in an arm chair thinking about separating children from families, but it's sadly a reality I live. In no other case would we choose family being punished for a crime over opportunity, stability, support, and so forth. It's my understanding most of these people my OP is addressed to find America to be a good place to be, which is why we want people to be allowed to come into out country. Yet that suddenly counts for nothing when you want it to?

I, personally, would not send a child to prison with his/her parents or leave them with a family committing other crimes. I'm a weirdo though.

 

[fantome profane]

Yes, I get a bit angry with the liberal ploy of referring to people in the country illegally as 'immigrants'! Or as 'undocumented aliens'.

Can we still call them human? Or is that a step too far?

 

[Thief]

I'm a weirdo though.

shall we take that up with our avatars in the joke section?

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Yes, I get a bit angry with the liberal ploy of referring to people in the country illegally as 'immigrants'! Or as 'undocumented aliens'.

Do these so-called liberals want no immigration laws or what? They never seem to answer that question

No, we want sane immigration laws. We are now talking about putting them in federal prisons where this is an administrative offence in other countries. And by UN charter separating children from parents as part of this process is illegal.

Plus, child splitting is also happening with assylem seekers who enter in legally.

 

[George-ananda]

Can we still call them human? Or is that a step too far?

Now you are playing the 'poor disrespected them' game.

 

[George-ananda]

No, we want sane immigration laws.

Then we agree. The country makes its immigration laws through its democratically elected representatives. If someone wants to see laws change, there is a process for that too. I don't accept in a modern first world nation of laws that it is OK to break laws you personally don't like or agree with.

 

[Stanyon]

I see a lot of talk about how evil Trump is for separating children from families when kicking illegal immigrants out of the country. It kind of baffles me. Here an individual who committed a crime is being punished for it and the child remains free of their sin. Which would you prefer, sending the kids back too? I'm one who agrees that any good intentioned person should be able to get citizenship quickly, but a crime is a crime is it not? It's illegal immigration. I think that not punishing the children is wonderful.

Word will spread quickly with this, cross illegally with children and you might lose them which may cut down on illegal crossing attempts. Who knows who their parents had to pay or promise to pay to get across, would the balance be taken out in trade for their children with them ending up in a whorehouse in Tijuana or a sex toy for rent to the rich and famous? or a domestic slave. I'd say the children would be better off here and have a better chance overall.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Then we agree. The country makes its immigration laws through its democratically elected representatives. If someone wants to see laws change, there is a process for that too. I don't accept in a modern first world nation of laws that it is OK to break laws you personally don't like or agree with.

I don't see anyone here doing anything beyond protesting unjust laws.

 

[sayak83]

Yes, I get a bit angry with the liberal ploy of referring to people in the country illegally as 'immigrants'! Or as 'undocumented aliens'.

Do these so-called liberals want no immigration laws or what? They never seem to answer that question

What's wrong with sending the whole family back?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

How do you know the people coming over the border 'illegally' know the laws of America?

Ignorance of the law is not a valid defense.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

To loosely paraphrase Indiana's DCS policy:
The best place for children to grow up is with their family.