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China fires up giant coal power plant in face of calls for cuts

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
See how USA took over territory from
Mexico and made the people second class in their own home.

Study the hidtoricsl boundsries of " Tibet "
and "China" and decide the true borders.

There is none.

Tibetans have lived under a repressive medieval
theocracy.
Quaint national geographic magazine stuff.

They are now integrating into a modern society
with the rest of China.
"Free Tibet" makes less sense than " free Texas".

I don't find the U.S. to be a paragon of freedom or human rights; I just think China is also culpable in multiple ways.

Even if we set aside the whole controversy surrounding Tibet, other issues remain, such as the treatment of Uyghurs and the heavy political oppression. These issues aren't unique to China, but that doesn't mean human rights organizations should overlook them.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Which country is wonderful?

Depends on how one defines "wonderful." No country is perfect; some are just better in some ways than others.

Going by most human rights metrics, China wouldn't rank highly--although I'm sure it also has some good things, like any other country.
 

Kooky

Freedom from Sanity
If this was the US, everyone would be applauding how many West Virginian coal miner jobs were being saved.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Everyone lives on blood soaked ground

That's true to a significant extent.

Well, at least we have the ability to talk to folks from distant places and know their perspectives!

I always appreciate your insight, my friend.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
If this was the US, everyone would be applauding how many West Virginian coal miner jobs were being saved.
Indeed. And that's a dilemma. Jobs plus economic growth versus more negative impact on the environment.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
No, not those things.
It's too evil.

That would explain the opium wars,
American gunboats in our rivers,
the sacking of Beijing.

Teach them evil doers a lesson.

The opium was to calm us down, so less evil was done.
I heard about that.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
That's true to a significant extent.

Well, at least we have the ability to talk to folks from distant places and know their perspectives!

I always appreciate your insight, my friend.

Thanks.

But seriously, what land was not taken many times over, from those who had it before?
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Thanks.

But seriously, what land was not taken many times over, from those who had it before?

If that includes interventionism without military colonization, then perhaps none. I think technological progress and increasing globalization will most likely only facilitate more interventionism in the future, too.

That doesn't mean we can't do better than previous generations, though. Just because something is historically common doesn't make it inevitable.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
That would explain the opium wars,
American gunboats in our rivers,
the sacking of Beijing.

Teach them evil doers a lesson.

The opium was to calm us down, so less evil was done.
I heard about that.
Even if Ameristan were to blame for China's evil traits,
they're still evil. I give'm credit for one thing....making
Ameristan look good.

BTW, I thought the sacking of Beijing was by Brits & Frogs.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Even if Ameristan were to blame for China's evil traits,
they're still evil. I give'm credit for one thing....making
Ameristan look good.

Didnt agree " evil", or try to " blame".

If USA looks good for its actions in China
that is a very unfortunate way to see good.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Didnt agree " evil", or try to " blame".

If USA looks good for its actions in China
that is a very unfortunate way to see good.
Our actions in China are pretty much commercial.
But China's actions in China are troubling...no need
to detail them, eh.
 

Suave

Simulated character
If this was the US, everyone would be applauding how many West Virginian coal miner jobs were being saved.
Save for a few climate change deniers like Joe Manchin and Donald Trump, most anybody realizes burning coal causes harmful global warming.
 

Suave

Simulated character
That's because green tech is still no match for fossil fuel in terms of power and reliability.
Not true here in Illinois where 77 percent of our energy is generated by carbonless sources of energy like nuclear power, solar power and wind turbines.
 
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