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China solves the problem of soldiers deserting

Exaltist Ethan

Exaltist Ethan

Bridging the Gap Between Believers and Skeptics
Andrew Johnson pardoned thousands of people for being ex-Confederates. Jimmy Carter pardoned over 200,000 people who were evading the Vietnam War draft. If you want to know if you are in a democracy or an autocracy, this is a prime example of such.
 
Audie

Audie

Veteran Member
Wildswanderer said:
Kinda remind you of a Darth Vader, situation doesn't it.
China government is full of despicable human rights violations.
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Nothing despicable about hateful falsehoods, it's patriotic!
"Med students in danger in Grenada!
Attack!
"Gulf of Tonkin incident" Marines. hit the
beach!
"Weapons of Mass Destruction!

You want to to hear of a country into violations?
China never ran gunboats in your rivers.
Get a list of American overseas ar Ed aggression. There's dozens of them.

We don't need to make things up about you guys, what does say about your apex of wonderful there.
 
John53

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
It's hardly a new idea even if it's true. Soldiers have been executed for desertion all throughout history.
 
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Wildswanderer

Veteran Member
Audie said:
Nothing despicable about hateful falsehoods, it's patriotic!
"Med students in danger in Grenada!
Attack!
"Gulf of Tonkin incident" Marines. hit the
beach!
"Weapons of Mass Destruction!

You want to to hear of a country into violations?
China never ran gunboats in your rivers.
Get a list of American overseas ar Ed aggression. There's dozens of them.

We don't need to make things up about you guys, what does say about your apex of wonderful there.
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I have no idea what you are ranting about. The Chinese governments human rights violations aren't exactly a secret.
 
Audie

Audie

Veteran Member
Wildswanderer said:
I have no idea what you are ranting about. The Chinese governments human rights violations aren't exactly a secret.
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You know, you generally don't have much
credibility with me but this time I do
believe you. Im sure you don't
have any idea what I was referring to.

Of course Americans are ignorant of their
history.

Foreign interventions by the United States - Wikipedia

As for lies, the exploding helmet story is
a lie posted for no reason than to defame.

As for Grenada, Iraq, Vietnam, it was lies to
justify invasion ( not a human rights issue to you?)

Who knows what all lies for all those
other interventions and the horrors inflicted.

But of course, adaptible standards for what
constitutes "human rights" keeps the USA
on the moral high ground to preach, and the ignorance you seem so pleased to advertise keeps you guys believing it.

You've never set foot in China and don't
know your own country.
 
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Wildswanderer

Veteran Member
Audie said:
You know, you generally don't have much
credibility with me but this time I do
believe you. Im sure you don't
have any idea what I was referring to.

Of course Americans are ignorant of their
history.

Foreign interventions by the United States - Wikipedia

As for lies, the exploding helmet story is
a lie posted for no reason than to defame.

As for Grenada, Iraq, Vietnam, it was lies to
justify invasion ( not a human rights issue to you?)

Who knows what all lies for all those
other interventions and the horrors inflicted.

But of course, adaptible standards for what
constitutes "human rights" keeps the USA
on the moral high ground to preach, and the ignorance you seem so pleased to advertise keeps you guys believing it.

You've never set foot in China and don't
know your own country.
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What does any of this have to do with China's human rights violations?
I could get in a long discussion about what US foreign wars I think are justified and what aren't... that's not the issue here.
China responsible for ‘serious human rights violations’ in Xinjiang province: UN human rights report

I don't always agree with what my government does either, BTW, but I have the right to speak out about it and not be "disappeared".
 
Audie

Audie

Veteran Member
Wildswanderer said:
What does any of this have to do with China's human rights violations?
I could get in a long discussion about what US foreign wars I think are justified and what aren't... that's not the issue here.
China responsible for ‘serious human rights violations’ in Xinjiang province: UN human rights report

I don't always agree with what my government does either, BTW, but I have the right to speak out about it and not be "disappeared".
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Ait has everything to do with your "right"
to claim moral superiority with
some lie you choose to believe.
 
Debater Slayer

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Daemon Sophic said:
I've seen this Roman Balmakov three times now in the last month, and each time he is spewing a pile of tripe. :facepalm:

China self destruct helmets: Real or fake news? | Asia Markets

"Facts Matter with Roman Balmakov"...... my third arm. :rolleyes:
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Yeah, the story seemed pretty sensationalized. There are numerous examples of human rights violations authorized by the CCP that any credible news outlet could choose from, so making up or propagating a false story is a bit strange.

I also find the whole finger-pointing at China from certain Western media outlets and individuals to be quite inconsistent considering their turning a blind eye to or even supporting abuses within their own borders. How many of the American far-right critics of China claim to care about human rights but barely bat an eye at mass shootings or support abortion bans and anti-LGBT legislation? And how many of them justify abusive American interventionism but point fingers at China?
 
stvdv

stvdv

Veteran Member
Debater Slayer said:
There are numerous examples of human rights violations authorized by the CCP that any credible news outlet could choose from, so making up or propagating a false story is a bit strange.
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Strange indeed. Good way to lose his credibility. Would not be on my "to do" list if I were a reporter
 
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Wildswanderer

Veteran Member
Audie said:
Cant understand a thing I'm talking about.

I've a slight Chinese / British accent, reason
enough for american racists to cannot understand me.
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Lol, um, now I'm a racist?
I guess you just assume all Americans are racist?
Even when we can't hear your accent and have no idea what nationality you are? Funny!
 
Wu Wei

Wu Wei

ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
ASked my wife about this, she has talked to a few on mainland, and although them not knowing about this is not proof it is false, at this point I am not sure the OP and the helmet claim is true. Although China's with human rights record, I would not be surprised, but to be honest, at this point I am not sure it is true either.

Question, how hard is it to take a helmet off quickly and throw it away before you desert? Not hard at all, and I'm pretty sure it is not bolted to thier heads.

However it is still possible that this is true, I do not know, jury is still out on this one
 
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