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China United States House passes $1.6 billion to deliver anti-China propaganda overseas


Since at least 2016, foreign interference in American elections and civil society have become central to American political discourse. The issue is taken extremely seriously by the U.S. government, which has levied sanctions and called out foreign adversaries for sowing “discord and chaos” through their propaganda efforts. But apparently Washington takes a different view when it comes to American propaganda operations in foreign countries. On Monday, the House passed HR 1157, the “Countering the PRC Malign Influence Fund,” by a bipartisan 351-36 majority. This legislation authorizes more than $1.6 billion for the State Department and USAID over the next five years to, among other purposes, subsidize media and civil society sources around the world that counter Chinese “malign influence” globally.

It's no doubt that relations between the US and PRC are somewhat of a hot topic of late. Republicans sometimes accuse Democrats of being too soft on China and the other way around.

This legislation effectively endorses American propaganda operations abroad without transparency on funding sources. As recent events basically are showing that information warfare and national interest are becoming increasingly blurred for both parties, this bill likely demonstrates that blurry line. But somehow, it's not too surprising, as it essentially formalizes what has been going on for years; NGO's like the National Endowment for Democracy are now able to do pretty openly what the CIA did covertly.
 

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It's no doubt that relations between the US and PRC are somewhat of a hot topic of late. Republicans sometimes accuse Democrats of being too soft on China and the other way around.

This legislation effectively endorses American propaganda operations abroad without transparency on funding sources. As recent events basically are showing that information warfare and national interest are becoming increasingly blurred for both parties, this bill likely demonstrates that blurry line. But somehow, it's not too surprising, as it essentially formalizes what has been going on for years; NGO's like the National Endowment for Democracy are now able to do pretty openly what the CIA did covertly.

That's a lot of money to spend on propaganda when there are homeless and hungry people out there, along with a need for affordable housing, healthcare, and education.

The irony is that the US business community has been selling out to them, and our own government (both parties) gave Most Favored Nation status to China and has been sucking up to their leadership since the 1990s. If they're deciding to change their tune and turn anti-China now, then it's a little late, I think.
 



It's no doubt that relations between the US and PRC are somewhat of a hot topic of late. Republicans sometimes accuse Democrats of being too soft on China and the other way around.

This legislation effectively endorses American propaganda operations abroad without transparency on funding sources. As recent events basically are showing that information warfare and national interest are becoming increasingly blurred for both parties, this bill likely demonstrates that blurry line. But somehow, it's not too surprising, as it essentially formalizes what has been going on for years; NGO's like the National Endowment for Democracy are now able to do pretty openly what the CIA did covertly.
The Quincy "Institute" is a hate group which is known to carry water for ruzzia and zhina. What's more is that they are known to employ white supremacist "America Firsters" or at least people who are very close to isolationist white supremacism


 

Saint Frankenstein

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The Quincy "Institute" is a hate group which is known to carry water for ruzzia and zhina. What's more is that they are known to employ white supremacist "America Firsters" or at least people who are very close to isolationist white supremacism


If those two Zionist warmonger rags hate them, they're on the right track. Of course they want to crap on a group that questions our feeding of the insatiable war machine because if we turned off the tap of money and weapons, "Israel" would go bye bye.
 
Can't give us healthcare or housing because there's no money but there's no shortage of money when it comes to this crap.
I'm American and I would like nothing more for universal healthcare for anyone who can't afford it. But Ukraine's interests, and Israel's interests in many ways are American interests. And countering disinformation is also in America's interests.

Sure on the surface it looks like we're just spending money but we have to think of the payoff. First off, Ukraine - If Ukraine crumbles, what does that say about American influence in Europe? If Putin wins, it’s practically a green light to bullies everywhere. America is not perfect but the world is better under "Pax Americana" than it has been at any time in human history. The good people of Ukraine don't want to be controlled by Putin, a mad dictator who poisons people with polonium for fun and tortures dissidents. If Ukraine loses, It will be a domino effect for him to re-take the Balkans, then Western Europe.

Now, shift gears to Israel. We’re talking about a tiny nation surrounded by people who want to destroy it. Again if Israel goes down the civilized world goes down.

Both Ukraine and Israel are like these strategic buffers for American interests. They’re not just fighting their own battles; they’re doing the heavy lifting for Uncle Sam. If you think about it, supporting Ukraine is like holding the line against authoritarianism—an ideological battle that echoes the same struggles Israel faces against extremist threats.
 

Saint Frankenstein

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I'm American and I would like nothing more for universal healthcare for anyone who can't afford it. But Ukraine's interests, and Israel's interests in many ways are American interests. And countering disinformation is also in America's interests.
Nonsense. Our interests and theirs are not the same. Taxpayers are being bled dry to prop up foreign governments and fund wars and conflicts that have nothing to do with the average American citizen and the needs of the country. Ukraine getting more weapons to send more cannon fodder to the frontline and provoke Russia into a nuclear attack doesn't benefit me as an American or anyone.
Sure on the surface it looks like we're just spending money but we have to think of the payoff. First off, Ukraine - If Ukraine crumbles, what does that say about American influence in Europe? If Putin wins, it’s practically a green light to bullies everywhere. It will be a domino effect for him to re-take the Balkans, then Western Europe.
I don't care. Not our problem. I'm concerned about American citizens and our money being used to benefit us. I'm not susceptible to Cold War Russophobia. Russia hasn't done **** to me or America, really. I never understood why we're supposed to hate the Russian Federation as it was supposedly the Marxism of the USSR that made us enemies. They're not Marxist anymore and the USSR doesn't exist now.
Now, shift gears to Israel. We’re talking about a tiny nation surrounded by people who want to destroy it. Again if Israel goes down the civilized world goes down.
"Israel" isn't civilized in the first place and is involving us in their genocide of the Palestinian people. We'd be better off without it. They need to stop spying on us, buying off and blackmailing our politicians to hijack our government for their purposes and stop having us bankroll their mass murder of innocent people.
Both Ukraine and Israel are like these strategic buffers for American interests. They’re not just fighting their own battles; they’re doing the heavy lifting for Uncle Sam. If you think about it, supporting Ukraine is like holding the line against authoritarianism—an ideological battle that echoes the same struggles Israel faces against extremist threats.
Neither of them are doing **** for us but ruining our reputation aboard, bringing us closer to nuclear war and embroilng us in crimes against humanity. But go ahead and spew some more blatant propaganda, I guess. You in the CIA or something? I mean, it's a little on the nose.
 
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"Israel" isn't civilized in the first place and is involving us in their genocide of the Palestinians people. We'd be better off without it. They need to stop spying on us, buying off and blackmailing our politicians to hijack our government for their purposes and stop having us bankroll their mass murder of innocent people.
There you go with the blatant anti-semitism. You don't really have to dig far to find it these days.

Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East, and arguably the only civilized nation in that region. They are a beacon of light struggling against darkness and you can only spout anti-semitic drivvel when thousands of Jewish people are being murdered by terrorists on a daily basis.

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Saint Frankenstein

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There you go with the blatant anti-semitism. You don't really have to dig far to find it these days.

Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East, and arguably the only civilized nation in that region. They are a beacon of light struggling against darkness and you can only spout anti-semitic drivvel when thousands of Jewish people are being murdered by terrorists on a daily basis.

Either you a reality check... or some medication.
Dude, go spew your nonsense to someone more gullible. You sound like you're copy and pasting or a bot.

"when thousands of Jewish people are being murdered by terrorists on a daily basis."
That's just laughably stupid. If you had shame, you'd blush posting something so fantastically untrue

You're just another Jewish supremacist accusing others of bigotry. Keep wearing out that "a" word. It barely means anything. Even Jews are smeared with it when they speak out in good conscience on behalf of of the Palestinians. I'm proud to stand with my Jewish fellow "anti-semites".
 
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