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Choose your reality: Trust wanes, conspiracy theories rise

Heyo

Veteran Member
I'm ignorant about what the 'fairness doctrine" covers, I'll admit. When it was repealed though, there was no widespread social media like today, so does that doctrine really cover social media? Just asking. Does it solve the social media problem?
It covers news agencies. Some social media can be seen as news agencies as they pre-select what "news" you are seeing. I.e. Facebook can be made to change their algorithm so that it doesn't create "reality bubbles".
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
It covers news agencies. Some social media can be seen as news agencies as they pre-select what "news" you are seeing. I.e. Facebook can be made to change their algorithm so that it doesn't create "reality bubbles".

Is it normal that YouTube has permanently removed any video portraying the famous interview with Soros? The interview where this tragic individual confesses he doesn't have the slightest concern towards the harm he has been causing?

That is a real conspiracy: this person (or better subject) controls YouTube and didn't want the public to see what kind of tragic and stiff he is.
Fortunately people have saved those videos.

So the reality bubbles are the ones Soros and his hordes create. Where only his narrative is allowed.
 
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Heyo

Veteran Member
Is it normal that YouTube has permanently removed any video portraying the famous interview with Soros? The interview where this tragic individual confesses he doesn't have the slightest concern towards the harm he has been causing?

That is a real conspiracy: this person (or better subject) controls YouTube and didn't want the public to see what kind of tragic and stiff this individual is.
Fortunately people have saved those videos.

So the reality bubbles are the ones Soros and his hordes create. Where only his narrative is allowed.
Who put you in the bubble you're in?
 

Hermit Philosopher

Selflessly here for you
Paranoia is not negative if your job is security. If the security officers of Nine Eleven had been more paranoiac, they would have checked on the terrorists' bags and would have found the box cutters or other weapons. They didnt check probably because they did not want to be called "paranoids" and "conspiracy theorists".
This anecdote is for making you understand that there can be suspicious motives behind the invention of the expression "conspiracy theory".

Awareness and caution are not the same as paranoia and I’d have to disagree with saying that paranoia is “not negative if your job is security” - a paranoid security force is a rather dangerous thing!

But hopefully, if your job is security, you’ll have enough training not to allow paranoia to take over and steer your actions.


Humbly
Hermit
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Awareness and caution are not the same as paranoia and I’d have to disagree with saying that paranoia is “not negative if your job is security” - a paranoid security force is a rather dangerous thing!

But hopefully, if your job is security, you’ll have enough training not to allow paranoia to take over and steer your actions.
Paranoia is what happens today at the security check points at the airports: that is we cannot even bring water bottles on board (not even in Summer) because they are suspicious.
Even if we drink lots of water in Summer.
What happened on 9 11 was carelessness. So if they had been paranoiac, 9 11 would have never happened.
 

Hermit Philosopher

Selflessly here for you
Paranoia is what happens today at the security check points at the airports: that is we cannot even bring water bottles on board (not even in Summer) because they are suspicious.
Even if we drink lots of water in Summer.
What happened on 9 11 was carelessness. So if they had been paranoiac, 9 11 would have never happened.

Yes, I’ve understood that this is your view on it Estro Felino; I was merely elaborating on why I disagree.


Humbly
Hermit
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Yes, I’ve understood that this is your view on it Estro Felino; I was merely elaborating on why I disagree.


Humbly
Hermit
For example, in 2016 so many people said that Trump had won because of so many Russians spreading pro-Trump messages on social media (as if it were illegal).
And they called it conspiracy theory.
But it is not a conspiracy theory. It is true; so many people, certainly mostly Russians had been spreading that Hillary is wicked and undeserving all over social media.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
The approval rating of Trump hasn't budged at all during the 1/6 open commitee meetings, or during the Ukraine impeachment. That shows people aren't seeing what is really going on, or is interpreted for them in radical conspiritorial ways.

I would attribute it to other causes. Trump's approval rating and what happened on 1/6 are more due to philosophical differences between factions and the cult of personality surrounding him.

At least as far as what I can tell, that's what is really going on.

The conspiracy theories are more of a distraction than anything else. They're not the cause or the motive behind the current dispute.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Is it normal that YouTube has permanently removed any video portraying the famous interview with Soros? The interview where this tragic individual confesses he doesn't have the slightest concern towards the harm he has been causing?

That is a real conspiracy: this person (or better subject) controls YouTube and didn't want the public to see what kind of tragic and stiff he is.
Fortunately people have saved those videos.

So the reality bubbles are the ones Soros and his hordes create. Where only his narrative is allowed.

If this is true, then you may have a point here. If a deliberate attempt to conceal information can be discerned, then it does look bad for the faction attempting to conceal. That's how conspiracy theories tend to be generated, usually rooted in someone's desire to conceal, cover up, or otherwise withhold information from the public.
 

Truthseeker

Non-debating member when I can help myself
I would attribute it to other causes. Trump's approval rating and what happened on 1/6 are more due to philosophical differences between factions and the cult of personality surrounding him.

At least as far as what I can tell, that's what is really going on.

The conspiracy theories are more of a distraction than anything else. They're not the cause or the motive behind the current dispute.
Whatever you want to believe, that's okay with me. I don't want to argue.;)
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Whatever you want to believe, that's okay with me. I don't want to argue.;)

Well, I just find it difficult to believe that the cause of the current political divide for the past several years is all due to some innocent misunderstanding. They obviously have different political views and philosophies which likely developed over the course of their entire lives.

I think that's the more likely explanation, rather than the current vague suggestions that they're all under some sort of mind control. While I realize it's easier and more convenient to take that tack (rather than actually discuss or debate competing ruling philosophies for America) it doesn't really seem to do much to solve the problem at hand.
 

Truthseeker

Non-debating member when I can help myself
Well, I just find it difficult to believe that the cause of the current political divide for the past several years is all due to some innocent misunderstanding. They obviously have different political views and philosophies which likely developed over the course of their entire lives.
You don't understand. I was not saying it is an innocent misunderstanding. Yes, they have different political views to and social media came into picture and the algorthms of social media took advantage of their political views and their political views become an echo chamber that the owners of the social media used fot their own gain. The people who use social media a lot, because of this echo chamber overlook for instance the bad character of Trump, for instance.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
You don't understand. I was not saying it is an innocent misunderstanding. Yes, they have different political views to and social media came into picture and the algorthms of social media took advantage of their political views and their political views become an echo chamber that the owners of the social media used fot their own gain. The people who use social media a lot, because of this echo chamber overlook for instance the bad character of Trump, for instance.

I was addressing the statement you made earlier, in which you suggested that the continued support of Trump shows that "people aren't seeing what is really going on." This would imply that if they did know what was really going on (as if anyone knows), they would hold different views.
 

Truthseeker

Non-debating member when I can help myself
I was addressing the statement you made earlier, in which you suggested that the continued support of Trump shows that "people aren't seeing what is really going on." This would imply that if they did know what was really going on (as if anyone knows), they would hold different views.
This conversation now confuses me. Never mind.
 
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