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Chrislam? .... Can this work?

ConfusedKuri

ConfusedKuri

Active Member
How would you mix these two? Christianity accepts Jesus's sacrifice on the cross and according to them Christ was God's son. Islam sees him as a prophet, who was never crucified, but will return at the end of the day in order to fight the ad-Dajjal(anti-Christ).
 
doppelganger

doppelganger

Through the Looking Glass
Sufism and Christian Gnosticism . . . sure.

Otherwise, probably not. Mainstream approaches to the two are directly contradictory on several foundational matters of Christian belief, as noted above.
 
doppelganger

doppelganger

Through the Looking Glass
And before someone says it, Baha'i is also fundamentally at odds with mainstream Christian belief, which would not allow for the notion that Jesus was but one of several "manifestations" (or that Jesus was a manifestation at all), or that any subsequent prophet would take precedence over the teachings of incarnate God in the form of Jesus.
 
arthra

arthra

Baha'i
The Qur'an acknowledges Jesus and the Gospel... We Baha'is acknowledge Jesus and His Gospel as well as Prophet Muhammad and the Qur'an.

What the Qur'an says is that they thought they had "killed" Jesus.. but His Spirit was received by God.

The verse to which the author refers is 4:156 and reads as follows:

"And for their saying, 'Verily we have slain the Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, an Apostle of God'. Yet they slew him not, and they crucified him not, but they had only his likeness... No sure knowledge had they about him, but followed only an opinion, and they did not really slay him, but God took him up to Himself."

'Abdu'l-Baha's interpretation of the verse is provided in a Tablet published in Star of the West, vol. 2, no. 7, p. 13, in which He has written:

"In regard to the verse, which is revealed in the Koran, that His Highness, Christ, was not killed and was not crucified, by this is meant the Reality of Christ. Although they crucified this elemental body, yet the merciful reality and the heavenly existence remain eternal and undying, and it was protected from the oppression and persecution of the enemies, for Christ is eternal and Everlasting. How can He die? This death and crucifixion was imposed on the physical body of Christ, and not upon the Spirit of Christ" See also Gleanings from the Writings of Baha'u'llah, pp. 85-6. Juan Ricardo Cole discusses Muslim objection to Gospel accounts of the crucifixion of Christ in "the Christian-Muslim Encounter", World Order, Winter 1977-8, pp. 18 and 22.

Also in another verse of the Quran regarding martyrs:

Surih 2:154

And say not of those who are slain in the Way of Allah: They are dead " Nay they are living, though ye perceive it not.."

The Sonship of Jesus can be recognized as a spiritual station .. just as Abraham was a "friend of God".
 
Zardoz

Zardoz

Wonderful Wizard
Premium Member
John D said:
Mixing of christianity and Islam......Chrislam.... the perfect worlreligion...http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?
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I doubt these two can be mixed. Oil and water would mix better. Now, Messianic Judaism and Islam, I'd have to say definitely yes. There is much less difference between my view of Yeshua from Islam than the Christian view of Yeshua... if my understanding of my two brother-faiths are correct.
 
Rainbow Mage

Rainbow Mage

Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
I doubt this would be any harder to do then mixing say Jew and Buddhist, yet people do that.
 
Vendetta

Vendetta

"Oscar the grouch"
Islam and Christianity doesn't work for the simple fact that the Holy Qur'an explicitly denounces Christian dogma (e.g. Trinity, Sonship). Even if you could philosophically manipulate the two, to work, you're still manipulating the true meaning.
 
Caladan

Caladan

Agnostic Pantheist
I wonder if anyone actually read any of the pieces in the link.

However. thank you Bismillah for putting an end to the little display of revisionizing the doctrines of Islam and Christianity.
all in the quest for creating a false sense of 'progressive spirituality'.

Christianity and Islam, are what they have always been. and the mainstream bodies of these faiths will remain unmoved by foreign new age ideas of blending the most superficial understanding of these religions.
revisionism which defy all sense of history. and major and mainstream current events.
 
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Gaura Priya

IRL
Why not? We are all children of Abraham anyways, although the foundation just seems more to the side of the leader of the movement in Africa instead of a solid substantial ideology... although the 'spiritual running' is an interesting concept nevertheless.
 
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Perseveranze

Member
Christians completely kill it with the whole Human being a God who came to earth and sacrificed himself for all their sins and all the trinity stuff. Islam, straightforward and too the point; 1 God, Messengers of God.

That's the two parts that Christians/Muslims differ. I believe Good Christians end up reverting to Islam anyways.

But, good news folks. When Jesus(pbuh) returns, the Christians/Muslims will become one, not sure about the Jews though.
 
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