Christ and Anti-Christ

[blü 2]

Aren't there basically two types of force? one which is self-aggrandizing, tribalism, or familialism, basic egoism as the preferred and adverse to other as self; which is anti-christ. and the other being of service to all as self; which is impersonal and unconditional; which is christ like?

wasn't jesus friendly to all and not just the jews, like himself but not all were amiable to their fellow israelite?

Are there not a number of lines of evolved traits in humans?

First, a set of desires and instincts to find a breeding partner and to bond and breed and to protect and nurture the offspring?

Second, a set of desires and instincts to be a member of a tribe, a society in which you have a place, the people you automatically tend to cooperate with for mutual advantage and common interest?

Third, a different set of desires and instincts on how to react to other tribes, to settle disputes with them, to trade, perhaps intermarry, make peace or war with?

And do they not tend to take priority in roughly that order much of the time?

 

[Fool]

Are there not a number of lines of evolved traits in humans?

First, a set of desires and instincts to find a breeding partner and to bond and breed and to protect and nurture the offspring?

Second, a set of desires and instincts to be a member of a tribe, a society in which you have a place, the people you automatically tend to cooperate with for mutual advantage and common interest?

Third, a different set of desires and instincts on how to react to other tribes, to settle disputes with them, to trade, perhaps intermarry, make peace or war with?

And do they not tend to take priority in roughly that order much of the time?

basic needs must be fulfilled, of course, but once they go beyond that they actually become a hindrance; when seen as objects of worship, idolatry. case in point, tesla was definitely actualized, he didn't seem to be very focused on money.

 

[loverofhumanity]

Aren't there basically two types of force? one which is self-aggrandizing, tribalism, or familialism, basic egoism as the preferred and adverse to other as self; which is anti-christ. and the other being of service to all as self; which is impersonal and unconditional; which is christ like?

wasn't jesus friendly to all and not just the jews, like himself but not all were amiable to their fellow israelite?

My understanding is that we have two natures so to speak, the higher self and the lower self.

In man there are two natures; his spiritual or higher nature and his material or lower nature. In one he approaches God, in the other he lives for the world alone. Signs of both these natures are to be found in men. In his material aspect he expresses untruth, cruelty and injustice; all these are the outcome of his lower nature. The attributes of his Divine nature are shown forth in love, mercy, kindness, truth and justice, one and all being expressions of his higher nature. Every good habit, every noble quality belongs to man’s spiritual nature, whereas all his imperfections and sinful actions are born of his material nature. If a man’s Divine nature dominates his human nature, we have a saint.”. (Abdu’l-Baha Paris Talks, p. 60)

“if the spiritual qualities of the soul, open to the breath of the Divine Spirit, are never used, they become atrophied, enfeebled, and at last incapable; whilst the soul's material qualities alone being exercised, they become terribly powerful -- and the unhappy, misguided man, becomes more savage, more unjust, more vile, more cruel, more malevolent than the lower animals.” (Abdu'l-Baha, Paris Talks, p. 96)

I believe Jesus taught love for all humanity, that we be lovers of humanity and never to see an ‘us and them’.

 

[blü 2]

basic needs must be fulfilled, of course, but once they go beyond that they actually become a hindrance; when seen as objects of worship, idolatry.

Those needs / instincts / behavioral tendencies are the root of what humans actually do in many situations.

They're universal, unlike any particular religion.

 

[Samantha Rinne]

Aren't there basically two types of force? one which is self-aggrandizing, tribalism, or familialism, basic egoism as the preferred and adverse to other as self; which is anti-christ. and the other being of service to all as self; which is impersonal and unconditional; which is christ like?

wasn't jesus friendly to all and not just the jews, like himself but not all were amiable to their fellow israelite?

They basically are. Yin and Yang sorta, only Yin and Yang oppose for a common purpose not for conflict (though you could argue the labor pains analo of building a better world).

Lemme break it to you like this. From your mindset, you're obviously a globalist. I'm a nationalist. So when I see the Antichrist what I see is big faceless goons running banks, corporations, and governments. I see borders so open that random people who decide they want to hurt me can just walk in to my country, my town, even knock on my door. Oh sure, we'd like to assume that people don't hurt us, but there are sketchy people even in our own towns (child molestors, angry coworkers, jealous lovers). To me, the people getting tricked are the city ppl so interested in being "enlightened" that they cannot be perceived as racist or bigoted in some way. So what if I'm tribal? My tribe doesn't occupy any other tribe's land ( nobody cares about Native Amer in this argument, they have reservations, and I'd gladly give them the Western 1/2 of US, because my tribe did actually settle here and not try to wipe out the other completely). But but slavery. No. Much of Africa and the Middle East, and even Asia still has slaves and keeps women as 2nd to 5th class. America and Europe abolished slavery. I'm not ashamed even if the things I'm not proud of like taking Native land. We can remedy this, by redistricting land (they get North Dakota, we get South Dakota, they get Nebraska, we get Kansas and Oklahoma, nobody gets Texas (sovereign nation). Split Alaska and Hawaii as dual-ruled states by both people. Although not a perfect solution, my white guilt is done.

On the other hand let's talk about big government and big taxes, and big multi-country alliances and open borders. I know you think that everything will be solved if we just get rid of racists and bigots like those fundies over there. Hmmm yeah, except globalism is like drafting an army of racists and sexists to get rid of imagined ones. Yes, you heard me right, imagined. Because aside from backwoods hicks, most people from small towns are okay with the general idea of anyone getting married to anyone (it's their business). What they aren't okay with, is taking people's businesses away because they don't wanna do a marriage or a cake (if you don't understand the distinction, you're coming to my house and saying "do this or I'll ruin you". No, still don't get it? So, where's my cake quoting Galatians 1:8? Yeah I thoyght so) . This isn't bigoted, this is called having boundaries. As in, I don't have to leave my house unlocked because Door are Hateful. To me, this whole concept is pretty much the Antichrist. Using guilt to trick people into handing over their lives.

As I say, this is a Yin and Yang thing. Globalists are gonna try to backstab the foreign ppl they invite, the foreigners might do the same. But this is missing the point, each side sees the opposite as evil because it's a funhouse mirror, US has functioned best historically when it in one of two hybrid systems. Both must include capitalism (capitalism works as an economic system even if it doesn't address social justice). Or to put it in children's books, Jack needs a chicken to keep making golden eggs (if taxpayers cannot get rich, you cannot get rich from them).

1. Anarcho-capitalism: Fine, unless you're in government. If you're a citizen tho, this is the better one. The government gets all its money from tariffs, luxury taxes, and drug taxes. In other words all expenses are avoidablw without having an abnormal life (not working/homeless). Downside is, no state welfare. But business owners (if the system works) start or pay into charities.
2. Socio-capitalism: Classically, socialism always fails. It always fails because it always punishes the person who earns more more. A good example is progressive tax. I'm making just under $9525, I pay 10% (and can probably exempt the whole thing under low income). The chart says the next bracket up is dollar more to $38700, which switches to $925 (the full previous tax) plus so-called "12%" only it means by double the amount is double the tax. But at 38701 it suddenly jumps to 22%. It jumps again at

 

[Samantha Rinne]

at 38701 to 22% (but hold up, let's do so math here, 10% of $38701 is 3870 , whereas professive ta xhits full previous amount ($4453) of both previous taxes, plus 22%, making 50k $5000 on 10% flat but $4453 plus ($50k-$38700)*.22 = $4453 + $2486 = nearly $7000 0_0). Do you see yet? This punishing people because they need to work harder means they stop working. So does everything. You treat everyone equally, you tax them the same, and exempt the poorest. The OCD ones work harder because they enjoy their work and the struggling have a safety next called "I get to keep more of my money.

 

[VoidoftheSun]

Aren't there basically two types of force? one which is self-aggrandizing, tribalism, or familialism, basic egoism as the preferred and adverse to other as self; which is anti-christ. and the other being of service to all as self; which is impersonal and unconditional; which is christ like?

wasn't jesus friendly to all and not just the jews, like himself but not all were amiable to their fellow israelite?

I love this article unironically:

Jesus Christ is the Anti-Christ


The role of the Christ and the Antichrist is identical, same role, same purpose, same person(s).