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Christian Crusader Obama

ragordon168

Active Member
Meet your new war president, same as your old war president.

Congratulations Obama, you make a fine Christian Crusader.

because he wants to end the war now instead of bleeding the nato forces dry over many decades? if we go in and overwhelm the taliban now they may not recover and the rebuild can get underway.

I agree. Obama just announced 30000 new troops for Afghanistan. I hoped he would send them into Pakistan.

pakistan cannot be invaded. the UK and the rest of the commonwealth cannot invade one of their own members so the US would have to go it alone and that would stretch their resources to breaking point. running 2 wars at once is a f**k up so how bad would it be with 3?
 

Tiapan

Grumpy Old Man
Meet your new war president, same as your old war president.

Congratulations Obama, you make a fine Christian Crusader.

I disagree with your rather naive conclusion, Why are there no neanderthals left, why did cromagnon win?

Simple neolithic agrarian cultures such as most of the middle east is, cannot compete with more advanced civilisations, unless they dont compete, in which case they do survive because they are ignored. But a guy called Bin Laden decided it would be good for the goat herders to advance so he declared war on one of the main countries that introduced the bill of rights, human equality, and democratic process, in total contravention to Islamic ideals. It is evolution, humans really have little say. This war will last for quite a while yet. 99% of the planet is not going to regress to the islamic crap of these camel drivers. so its war to extinction as it has always been.

The cowboy who fluked being the US president, really went down the wrong track and that has delayed the goal and will cost thousands of US and allies lives, Obama is not going to waste the blood of those who have died, without giving it one last good shot.

To me the real weapon in this conflict will be the internet. Where Afghani people them selves for the very first time can actually get some truths instead of lies. But have they got the balls to stand up and wipe the Islamic plague from their midst. Maybe maybe not. They all seem pretty gutless.

Cheers

Cheers
 

ragordon168

Active Member
I disagree with your rather naive conclusion, Why are there no neanderthals left, why did cromagnon win?

Simple neolithic agrarian cultures such as most of the middle east is, cannot compete with more advanced civilisations, unless they dont compete, in which case they do survive because they are ignored. But a guy called Bin Laden decided it would be good for the goat herders to advance so he declared war on one of the main countries that introduced the bill of rights, human equality, and democratic process, in total contravention to Islamic ideals. It is evolution, humans really have little say. This war will last for quite a while yet. 99% of the planet is not going to regress to the islamic crap of these camel drivers. so its war to extinction as it has always been.

The cowboy who fluked being the US president, really went down the wrong track and that has delayed the goal and will cost thousands of US and allies lives, Obama is not going to waste the blood of those who have died, without giving it one last good shot.

To me the real weapon in this conflict will be the internet. Where Afghani people them selves for the very first time can actually get some truths instead of lies. But have they got the balls to stand up and wipe the Islamic plague from their midst. Maybe maybe not. They all seem pretty gutless.

Cheers

Cheers

im hoping you just mean the extremists
 

dogsgod

Well-Known Member
Tiapan, According to the official record, 15 of the nineteen hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, the planning took place in Germany and the training in the US, and yet Afghanistan is invaded. Go figure.

Civilization began in Iraq. The people of the middle east are as resourceful as people anywhere in the world regardless of their religion. Your deep rooted prejudices notwithstanding.
 

Tiapan

Grumpy Old Man
Tiapan, According to the official record, 15 of the nineteen hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, the planning took place in Germany and the training in the US, and yet Afghanistan is invaded. Go figure.

Civilization began in Iraq. The people of the middle east are as resourceful as people anywhere in the world regardless of their religion. Your deep rooted prejudices notwithstanding.

I am fully aware that most were Saudis but even Saudi Arabia would execute them on site, but Afghanistan accepted and fostered them. The culture is what must be destroyed ie the destination not the originn.

Cheers
 
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Tiapan

Grumpy Old Man
im hoping you just mean the extremists

Yes you are correct. Contrary to popular opinion there are a vaste majority of good Muslims, they are just scared witless to do anything about it. Or dont have the guts to do it.

Cheers
 
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dogsgod

Well-Known Member
I am fully aware that most were Saudis but even Saudi Arabia would execute them on site, but Afghanistan accepted and fostered them. The culture is what must be destroyed not the location.

Cheers
Who did Afghanistan accept and foster? The culture must be destroyed? Who are the barbarians that want to destroy a culture?
 

Tiapan

Grumpy Old Man
Who did Afghanistan accept and foster? The culture must be destroyed? Who are the barbarians that want to destroy a culture?

What is your argument. That Sharia law is great and democratic that these morons are gods gift to humanity what are you saying? Every so often some one with guts has to stand up and tackle the bully from my point of view even though the west is not guiltless the overriding evidence suggests that fundamentalist Islam is the most dangerous force on earth and nothing including genocide is acceptable in its place. IMHO. Evolution has no room for fools.

Cheers
 
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dogsgod

Well-Known Member
What is your argument. That Sharia law is great and democratic that these morons are gods gift to humanity what are you saying?

Cheers

Who are the morons in all of this? What I'm saying is that there was not a shred of evidence that led us to believe that people in Afghanistan had anything to do with 9/11. That an investigation never took place before invasions and occupations took place, and what little investigation did take place did not point to Afghanistan nor Iraq. That western involvement in the middle east has zero to do with 9/11 and everything to do with wanting to control their resources.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Maybe a few, or rather several years ago this would have been good. But being this long after 9/11, the large amount of rescources and personell that Iraq has consumed, and the fact that Bib Laden has had plenty of time to find an even better hiding spot that might not even be in Afghanistan anymore, makes me doubt any good can come from this. But then again, Obama did say he'd get troops out of Iraq. While that may be happening, he didn't say anything about Afghanistan.
 

ragordon168

Active Member
Who are the morons in all of this? What I'm saying is that there was not a shred of evidence that led us to believe that people in Afghanistan had anything to do with 9/11. That an investigation never took place before invasions and occupations took place, and what little investigation did take place did not point to Afghanistan nor Iraq. That western involvement in the middle east has zero to do with 9/11 and everything to do with wanting to control their resources.

iraq maybe but what about afghanistan? as far as i know afghanistan is just a dusty patch of dirt with no resource (beyond opium).

iraq was for oil, afghanistan was to make america look big and powerful, cold war muscle tensing in the 21st century
 

Storm

ThrUU the Looking Glass
Wow, what an impressive argument!

What exactly am I supposed to believe in?
 

kai

ragamuffin
iraq maybe but what about afghanistan? as far as i know afghanistan is just a dusty patch of dirt with no resource (beyond opium).

iraq was for oil, afghanistan was to make america look big and powerful, cold war muscle tensing in the 21st century

Yay How much oil did we get? are we all rich now? how are we going to divide up the Opium? your grasp of the situation is awe inspiring.
 

Smoke

Done here.
Yay How much oil did we get? are we all rich now? how are we going to divide up the Opium?
Some right-wing Christian supporters of the Republican Party have done very well. Erik Prince springs to mind.
 
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