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Christian Gnosticism

soma

John Kuykendall
A miracle occurs when a person is willing to shift his experience from the ego to pure consciousness. This Gnosticism is accomplished when one looks to Christ consciousness for guidance and finds one’s true self because the most fundamental error for human beings is misidentification of the ego. It loves to be identified, when we were born we were given a name for identification purposes, and we go through life thinking that we are who the name says we are. We also identify with our sex, race, religion, occupation, political party, possessions, where we live, social status, opinions and other things. We go through life never considering that we are more than our identity and that our ego is the main cause of our suffering in this life. When we experience ourselves as consciousness and realize that we are not our ego, we find that instantly and magically we transform our lives from effort and struggle to be somebody with the peace and satisfaction of just being alive.
Tranquility and peace present themselves, when the ego and its passions do not prevail because the ego can pervert the mind and shackle the consciousness, or it can show us the healthy effects of striving for a higher self. We don’t need a whip and bridle to curb the ego, but an incentive to force it into life so love takes the place of fear as the driving force. When the love for our body and mind expands beyond the ego and replaces aversion as the motive for our determination, our consciousness emerges from the gloom and refuses any longer to be suppressed, as it becomes the guiding light to attain a better life. It gives us an aim in life to free the mind, to know God and to realize that pure consciousness is the only cause, medium and effect in our lives. It gives us a motive that spurs us on to hack at the chains that get in our way, chains that bind the mind to pain and pleasure. Information and knowledge are the tools that assist in making a clear cut transformation so understanding, enlightenment and serenity can be achieved and kept in the mind because before Christ consciousness can be received the mind has to be spiritualized. The mind groans under the tyranny of an intellect that suppresses the energies of the body so energy needs to be cherished and tended to so we don’t develop the intellect at the expense of the soul, the effect would be neurosis. Christ cannot guide us if our mind is distracted with excessiveness because that causes spiritual blindness, which is to say, if we see Christ clearly without blurring or double vision, we will be full of his consciousness. Waiting for the coming of Christ is not merely the filling in of time, but a being filled with his consciousness with the divine gift of love.
Those who blend Christ consciousness into their lives have no need to preach the word because they are living the word. A person of this temperament will follow the letter and the spirit of the word as a matter of principle and not as policy. This person is moral for the sake of eternal value and not because there is a human law imposing a punishment to keep him honest. This portrayal of Christ consciousness demands intelligence because this theory can't be turned into a mechanical system and crammed into unimaginative minds because it is a spiritual awareness in the here and now. http://thinkunity.com
 

gnostic

The Lost One
I have one slight problem.
soma said:
Those who blend Christ consciousness into their lives have no need to preach the word because they are living the word. A person of this temperament will follow the letter and the spirit of the word as a matter of principle and not as policy.
How can you "follow the letter and spirit of the word", if you are struggling to grasp the Gnostic texts found? A lot of it is pretty cryptic. Being a gnostic is no easy task. (Not that I think it should be easy.)
 

Halcyon

Lord of the Badgers
I agree with most of what soma has pasted, although i don't think it has much to do with Gnosticism, more to do with the Christ conciousness movement.

gnostic said:
How can you "follow the letter and spirit of the word", if you are struggling to grasp the Gnostic texts found?
A lot of it is pretty cryptic. Being a gnostic is no easy task. (Not that I think it should be easy.)
I disagree, i have the innate feeling that 'the truth' is incredibly simple. Its something i've always felt to be true, and whenever i see man making things more complicated than it should be, my stomach knots up and i feel knowledge is being corrupted.

Thats how i view Gnostic texts, and with enough time spent on them, the texts open up the inner simplicity of their messages.
 

Godfather89

I am Who I am
Actually, through a Gnostic Priest he told that its about simplicity. Simplicity is a message Jesus talked about when he tells us to fast from the world, in one of the many gospel of Thomas sayings. The World wants extravagant things, it wants complexity. When you fast from it Jesus wants you to be simplistic and humble -- I'm not saying being a simpleton just simplistic (E.g. Less is More -- Were you own less to spend more time with what you own and not be attached to what you own).
 

ranjana

Active Member
most fundamental error for human beings is misidentification of the ego. It loves to be identified, when we were born we were given a name for identification purposes, and we go through life thinking that we are who the name says we are. instantly and magically we transform our lives from effort and struggle to be somebody with the peace and satisfaction of just being alive.

wow this is christian gnosticism? this is so beautiful! it seems like one of those eternal threads of truth that weaves through many faiths-
that we are actually just life, conditionless and nameless; and that life is sacred and blissful and eternal by nature!

Those who blend Christ consciousness into their lives have no need to preach the word because they are living the word

the most powerful kind of teaching! for the most part peoples minds are already so crystallized that preaching either is heard by the converted or falls on deaf ears. we have to see it being lived to believe it.
 

SageTree

Spiritual Friend
Premium Member
Is there a particular way that one would understand or believe differently about the Crucifixion?
 

SageTree

Spiritual Friend
Premium Member
I really do feel that the "Christ story" is so much more powerful
when read/understood esoterically.

I would agree entirely. I suppose I was asking to get some talk going as much as wanting to hear how 'similiarites' view It :D.

A thread I started on mysticism , based on my discoveries, talks a little about my back ground, but I'll add, that when I really came to understand the Bible with beginners mind and embrace it with the imagination I had when I was a child, it all started to appear so blatantly obvious.

I describe in like reading it like this (moved hand close then far) as opposed to just like this (move left and right)

It's like moving through the Text, there is an understanding behind me, possibly my past one, and one in front of me, that I can't see and here I am, in this 3-d Bible or ANY Religious text for that matter.

Cheers UV :namaste
 
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blackout

Violet.
Well, I don't properly belong in the GnosticDIR
though if anything my Consciousness of Christ
is more Gnostic than anything else christian.

I experienced my major paradigm shift and
prolonged heightened reality experience
when I was in a rather radical gnostic mindset.
Funny thing is, it led me right out of christianity in the end.
Right out the back door, never to return.

This is why I don't really belong here posting my thoughts I guess.

Back when I was in a place where I really wanted to discuss them,
no christian would give me the time of day.
They all said I was not christian. :shrug:
In the end, I guess I proved them all right. ;)
 

SageTree

Spiritual Friend
Premium Member
Call me crazy, because I don't 'belong' here, but the Gnostic DIR is bound to a fairly liberal enforcement of who is and isn't Gnostic.

Thanks for sharing, I feel we are both ok respectfully being in here. :D
 

Requia

Active Member
Is there a particular way that one would understand or believe differently about the Crucifixion?

Do you mean a different story of the crucifixion, or a different meaning to the story?

The former has some examples (IIRC there's an alternate story in Apocalypse of Peter). As for the latter I've never really understood how the dying for humanity's sins thing works in mainstream Christianity.
 

SageTree

Spiritual Friend
Premium Member
Do you mean a different story of the crucifixion, or a different meaning to the story?

The former has some examples (IIRC there's an alternate story in Apocalypse of Peter). As for the latter I've never really understood how the dying for humanity's sins thing works in mainstream Christianity.


IF there is a different time line or means/manner in which it happened, the story.
Also
Yes, different meaning, such as the tell by Pramahansa Yoganada, this is something I'd deem good one what I've read from his books, if you aren't familiar.

Thanks for the thoughts I'm going to go search The Apocalypse of Peter off my book shelf and read it again.
:namaste
SageTree
 

Requia

Active Member
Keep in mind there are two different works by the same name, only one of them is a Gnostic text.
 

NeedingGnosisNow

super-human
Both of you (UltraViolet and SageTree) belong here imo. Because the person who believes he or she can know the Divine is a Gnostic. To be Gnostic is to believe we can know the Divine, we can learn the Divine's purpose for us, we can approach the Divine in consciousness, we can move closer to the Divine, we can know the Divine.
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
Both of you (UltraViolet and SageTree) belong here imo. Because the person who believes he or she can know the Divine is a Gnostic. To be Gnostic is to believe we can know the Divine, we can learn the Divine's purpose for us, we can approach the Divine in consciousness, we can move closer to the Divine, we can know the Divine.

yes, gnostics are special people :D
 

SageTree

Spiritual Friend
Premium Member
Both of you (UltraViolet and SageTree) belong here imo. Because the person who believes he or she can know the Divine is a Gnostic. To be Gnostic is to believe we can know the Divine, we can learn the Divine's purpose for us, we can approach the Divine in consciousness, we can move closer to the Divine, we can know the Divine.

Thanks :namaste


:)
SageTree
 
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