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Have you ever talked with someone who used circular logic?
doppelgänger;849334 said:I always do. Except when I don't.
I don't except when I do.
When I come back around, I love myself even more... it's further proof that I truly am the center of my universe.:beach:
Equating joy with happiness is as impossible in English as it is in Greek. There is no such thing as Christian happiness, and it is completely incompatible with the concept of joy.
dear angellous:
please pretend i am a barely literate moron (not that far from the truth) and expand on this post for my spiritual edification.
i am just not getting it.
Happiness is most characterized in English as a pleasent emotion experienced by happenstance. It means that by luck or chance you're pleased with your circumstances. This is impossible to do when the circumstances are not characterized as pleasurable like suffering on a cross or being a disciple of Christ. To qualify this word to mean anything else is to stretch its definition to such an extent that it would be better to be more precise and choose something else.
Joy is a gift of God when happiness is impossible. When the circumstances are not pleasent and one cannot be pleased, one can be comforted by the promises and activities of God. Also, in circumstances in which we should not be happy, we can be comforted by the hope which is supernaturally affected by the mercy of God.
I think the misidentification of joy, blessing, and comfort with "enjoyment" and "happiness" are destructive and heretical. It's destructive because one cannot enjoy the death of a child or spouce, and then wrongly feel that they have missed the point of Christianity. It's in these times of suffering which ruins our happiness that God can be most evident in refreshing us with his love.
i wish you were my pastor.
thank you.
Happiness is most characterized in English as a pleasent emotion experienced by happenstance. It means that by luck or chance you're pleased with your circumstances. This is impossible to do when the circumstances are not characterized as pleasurable like suffering on a cross or being a disciple of Christ. To qualify this word to mean anything else is to stretch its definition to such an extent that it would be better to be more precise and choose something else.
Joy is a gift of God when happiness is impossible. When the circumstances are not pleasent and one cannot be pleased, one can be comforted by the promises and activities of God. Also, in circumstances in which we should not be happy, we can be comforted by the hope which is supernaturally affected by the mercy of God.
I think the misidentification of joy, blessing, and comfort with "enjoyment" and "happiness" are destructive and heretical. It's destructive because one cannot enjoy the death of a child or spouce, and then wrongly feel that they have missed the point of Christianity. It's in these times of suffering which ruins our happiness that God can be most evident in refreshing us with his love.
i wish you were my pastor.
thank you.
It's very interesting that a person named Moon Woman who belongs to
Eros:
For those who wish to discuss erotica and human sexuality in a private forum
and is not a Christian would want the author of this Thread to be her pastor. I thought the message of the cross is foolishness and a great offense to nonbelievers. I'm sorry, I wasn't going to post on this Thread again. However, I thought I wanted to share this insight.
It's very interesting that a person named Moon Woman who belongs to
Eros:
For those who wish to discuss erotica and human sexuality in a private forum
and is not a Christian would want the author of this Thread to be her pastor. I thought the message of the cross is foolishness and a great offense to nonbelievers. I'm sorry, I wasn't going to post on this Thread again. However, I thought I wanted to share this insight.
I agree with this post, very insightful. Trouble is i feel I may have been tricked into agreeing with a heresy.
Heresy is not really the issue. It's knowing the Father, and the Father is not one to care much about our rhetoric.
doppelgänger;850280 said:Unless it's my rhetoric. In which case, it is the Father's rhetoric.
Or so the argument always goes . . .
It's not the argument that I was using.
doppelgänger;850284 said:I wasn't specifically thinking of you.