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"Christian Running for WV House Is Appalled By Sex Ed Book Written for Pre-Teens"

Skwim

Veteran Member
Derrick Evans is a conservative activist who’s running to represent District 19 in West Virginia’s House of Delegates. The GOP primary is on May 12.

And he’s already showing us what kind of lawmaker he’d be on Facebook, where he recently ranted about the book It’s Perfectly Normal, designed to introduce children to topics involving sex. Specifically, he whines about how the book features illustrations of sex, masturbation, and a man putting on a condom.

Also, it’s not anti-gay enough.

EvansDerrickScreenshot.png
[Just to note,10 year-olds are typically in 5th grade, not 4th].

'The book tells your children to ignore religious convictions about sin. It goes into great detail about homosexuality, and goes as far to say that gay men are considered to have the highest form of love. It normalizes boy on boy and girl on girl exploring and touching each other’s bodies. The book says people who disapprove of LGBTQ lifestyles, base their opinions on fears and misinformation.

Those showing this to our children should be locked up. Once elected I will work to pass legislation that stops this from happening anywhere in West Virginia. I will always stand and Fight For Christian Values.'

He’s mad that the book says anti-LGBTQ bigotry is based on fears and misinformation, but that’s accurate. (What is religion if not both of those things?)

But even beyond his opposition to age-appropriate sex education, it’s telling that his response to kids being taught any of this is to imprison the adults. Teaching children accurate information about their bodies isn’t a crime. Evans, a Christian, is just ashamed that anyone might love their bodies instead of feeling constant shame about them.

By the way, the book even says its target audience is kids older than 10. If you’re 10 and you still don’t know these things, then you need to learn them. It’s not like your church will do it. And if Evans is elected, he plans to spend a lot of wasted time — on the taxpayers’ dime — in his futile effort to block students from learning. Education is his enemy.
source



"After having looked elsewhere about how this book has been received (One million copies in print) I came across some rather interesting comments. "

"Here’s DeplorableHousewives’s take on it:
It comes as no surprise that CSE [was] secretly pushed through the democrat-controlled House. Planned Parenthood serves as a spigot of money for democrat candidates and causes and uses our tax dollars to do so. Democrats are looking to insert perversion and promiscuity into public schools to keep funneling a never-ending supply of young vulnerable women to Planned Parenthood, thereby ensuring an infinite money stream to the democrat party."

"It's Perfectly Normal" is in fact anything but, and it includes detailed language and illustrations of homosexual acts, male and female self-pleasure, pornography and abortion, all of which are introduced in a lighthearted tone and a very positive light."

"So this is where the long trail of tears of classroom sex-ed -- condemned by Pope Pius XI in Casti Connubii back in 1930 -- finally ended up. Far from teaching children the mere biology of human reproduction, classroom sex-ed is now an Alfred Kinsey fantasyland which includes detailed instruction on sodomy and abortion for prepubescent children. It's the sort of X-rated stuff that used to land people in jail and had Kinsey himself hiding in his attic to conduct his "research".

"User Review - Flag as inappropriate
It's one thing to present factual truths concerning the human body and it's changes as one grows from a child to an adult. It's quite another to represent those who disagree with homosexuality as ignorant fearmongers who simply just don't know any better. Those of us who refute the homosexual lifestyle as 'normal' do so from biblical teachings that go back to the beginning of humanity, not from ignorance or fear. Please, if you're going to present material for the purpose of an individual making up their own mind, do so with the truth, and not the promotion of your own agendas."


"2002 - Texas - Challenged, but retained, in Montgomery County library system after the Republican Leadership Council characterized the book as "vulgar" and trying to "minimize or even negate that homosexuality is a problem".

"2008 - Maine - A Lewiston patron refused to return the book to the Lewiston and Auburn public libraries because she was "sufficiently horrified by the illustrations and sexually graphic, amoral, abnormal contents." A police investigation found the library did not violate the town ordinance against obscenity and the patron will stand trial for theft."

REVIEWS

"I bought this to see with my own eyes of what schools would be teaching our children! Not happy with the content! I as an adult was very uncomfortable with this!! This is like rated X stuff!!!"

"This is extremely inappropriate for adolescents. The illustrations are unnecessarily graphic (do we need to see naked people bending over?) I'm all for giving kids real facts and information to protect their health and to teach them to use birth control correctly, but this book is just gross. Maybe the point is to creep them out so they'll practice abstinence?"

"unfortunately I had to return the book because there are several pictures that are unnecessarily vulgar, When I read about the illustrator I learned he is not qualified to teach children about sexuality, he has no degrees related to this field, no art degree, he is not a parent, nor teacher, and not heterosexual. He is not qualified to teach most children about sex and sexuality. Also the age recommendation of 10 years is ridiculously low."

"This book is a planned parenthood endorsed piece of garbage. It’s disgusting, lacks accuracy/honesty and discusses anal, oral and vaginal sex with cartoon pictures. It also teaches about abortion. Don’t be fooled by the copies sold"

"Absolutely Horrific!!!
This is absolutely not appropriate for children. Sexualizing children & telling them how good sex feels is appalling. The images look like pronagraphy for kids. They even have a spot where it tells my 10 yr old how they can speak to a health official about birth control without my concent. Then the very next chapter is on Abortion. Are you kidding me, who thinks this is appropriate for a 10 year old. Absolutely nothing good can come from teaching children anel, vaginal, and oral sex feels good. It makes it seem like it's normal behavior for children to have sex. Even stating this is a way you can show someone you care about them."

"Holy hell. Let me start by saying I would have voted for Bernie and this book made me want to be a Republican. Do you think it's appropriate for a 10 year old to be told "changing your mind" is a fine reason for an abortion? Before going on to list several other reasons and then at #7 in your list include rape? Do you think children that age need to even know abortion exists? Or rape? Just casually mentioned as #7 in a list? It's a CHILDREN'S book - at least that's what I consider a 10 year old to be - and children need education not indoctrination. They do not need to be encouraged to look up their state laws regarding abortion. And the illustrations are creepily sexualized. Again, this is coming from a left leaning, pro-choice female. If you are looking for a book to cover regular, hair-in-funny-places topics that a boy might not like to hear from his mother, run far away. I would much rather explain masturbation and wet dreams to him myself."




So, what thinkest thou?

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Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Derrick Evans is a conservative activist who’s running to represent District 19 in West Virginia’s House of Delegates. The GOP primary is on May 12.

And he’s already showing us what kind of lawmaker he’d be on Facebook, where he recently ranted about the book It’s Perfectly Normal, designed to introduce children to topics involving sex. Specifically, he whines about how the book features illustrations of sex, masturbation, and a man putting on a condom.

Also, it’s not anti-gay enough.

EvansDerrickScreenshot.png

[Just to note,10 year-olds are typically in 5th grade. Not 4th].

'The book tells your children to ignore religious convictions about sin. It goes into great detail about homosexuality, and goes as far to say that gay men are considered to have the highest form of love. It normalizes boy on boy and girl on girl exploring and touching each other’s bodies. The book says people who disapprove of LGBTQ lifestyles, base their opinions on fears and misinformation.

Those showing this to our children should be locked up. Once elected I will work to pass legislation that stops this from happening anywhere in West Virginia. I will always stand and Fight For Christian Values.'

He’s mad that the book says anti-LGBTQ bigotry is based on fears and misinformation, but that’s accurate. (What is religion if not both of those things?)

But even beyond his opposition to age-appropriate sex education, it’s telling that his response to kids being taught any of this is to imprison the adults. Teaching children accurate information about their bodies isn’t a crime. Evans, a Christian, is just ashamed that anyone might love their bodies instead of feeling constant shame about them.

By the way, the book even says its target audience is kids older than 10. If you’re 10 and you still don’t know these things, then you need to learn them. It’s not like your church will do it. And if Evans is elected, he plans to spend a lot of wasted time — on the taxpayers’ dime — in his futile effort to block students from learning. Education is his enemy.
source




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So, which part was he exaggerating in? (I haven't read the book)

PS... Did you read the book?
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
So, which part was he exaggerating in? (I haven't read the book)

PS... Did you read the book?
Pretty much everything pertaining to homosexuality.
Fun fact, this book was first published in 1994.
 

dianaiad

Well-Known Member
Is he right that while kids in public school have mandated access to this book, one can't publish many of the pictures on Facebook without blurring the images?

I haven't read the book. I'm just curious about that aspect.

Because dang....I have a problem with that one.
 

Maximus

the Confessor
Derrick Evans is a conservative activist who’s running to represent District 19 in West Virginia’s House of Delegates. The GOP primary is on May 12.

And he’s already showing us what kind of lawmaker he’d be on Facebook, where he recently ranted about the book It’s Perfectly Normal, designed to introduce children to topics involving sex. Specifically, he whines about how the book features illustrations of sex, masturbation, and a man putting on a condom.

Also, it’s not anti-gay enough.

EvansDerrickScreenshot.png
[Just to note,10 year-olds are typically in 5th grade. Not 4th].

'The book tells your children to ignore religious convictions about sin. It goes into great detail about homosexuality, and goes as far to say that gay men are considered to have the highest form of love. It normalizes boy on boy and girl on girl exploring and touching each other’s bodies. The book says people who disapprove of LGBTQ lifestyles, base their opinions on fears and misinformation.

Those showing this to our children should be locked up. Once elected I will work to pass legislation that stops this from happening anywhere in West Virginia. I will always stand and Fight For Christian Values.'

He’s mad that the book says anti-LGBTQ bigotry is based on fears and misinformation, but that’s accurate. (What is religion if not both of those things?)

But even beyond his opposition to age-appropriate sex education, it’s telling that his response to kids being taught any of this is to imprison the adults. Teaching children accurate information about their bodies isn’t a crime. Evans, a Christian, is just ashamed that anyone might love their bodies instead of feeling constant shame about them.

By the way, the book even says its target audience is kids older than 10. If you’re 10 and you still don’t know these things, then you need to learn them. It’s not like your church will do it. And if Evans is elected, he plans to spend a lot of wasted time — on the taxpayers’ dime — in his futile effort to block students from learning. Education is his enemy.
source



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Oh look, another anti-Christian propaganda post.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
So, Derrick was telling the truth?
About what? That it says homosexual male love is considered a higher form of love?
I mean if it also covers Ancient Spartan culture, which is where that idea comes from. Which would be a bit random for a book about puberty to include. Must be quite the in depth education tool if it did. Impressive even. Doubt it though. Probably makes a passing reference, like the old Horrible Histories series often did. If at all.
Also “telling kids not to worry about sin” sounds like what he got from it. Which tells me more about him than the book.
 
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Skwim

Veteran Member
So, which part was he exaggerating in? (I haven't read the book)
After having read some of it I highly doubt the author "told children to ignore their religious convictions about sin," That "gay men are considered to have the highest form of love". And I didn't see anywhere that the book is "recommended for the 4th grade lesson on Puberty." And I certainly don't agree that "Those showing this to our children should be locked up."


PS... Did you read the book?
I actually did read the 29 pages given in the first link, but haven't read any in the 10 more pages HERE link.

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Skwim

Veteran Member
Is he right that while kids in public school have mandated access to this book, one can't publish many of the pictures on Facebook without blurring the images?
Don't know about that, but heck, you can't even show them on Religious Forums. :eek:................... Well I suppose they could go into the Eros Room.

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Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Even if it is, it’s sauce for the goose. There’s been enough Christian anti-everything written to recreate the Library of Alexandria.
Okay, now reconsider your comment from the perspective of all those "heathens" that Christian missionaries went out into the world to save. It was, after all, a Christian impulse in Canada to "take the Indian out of the child" when taking children by the tens of thousands away from their families and putting them in "residential schools," where their culture, their language and their beliefs were forbidden. And where they died by the hundreds, uncelebrated and forgotten.

Let me ask you a question -- was that a good thing?

Or how about the missionaries in Goa, and other parts of India? Did they respect and protect the beliefs of those they met? Was that a good thing?

Then why be upset if some of think that Christian ideas are harmful -- as they certainly were to those native children in Canada, or in India, or in so many places around the world -- want to speak out about that? Why do you resent it?
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Is he right that while kids in public school have mandated access to this book, one can't publish many of the pictures on Facebook without blurring the images?

I haven't read the book. I'm just curious about that aspect.

Because dang....I have a problem with that one.
I imagine facebook resorts to such censorship to avoid controversy and to appease prudes rather than as some sort of moral statement.
 

dianaiad

Well-Known Member
I imagine facebook resorts to such censorship to avoid controversy and to appease prudes rather than as some sort of moral statement.

Well, in this case....it's one of the reasons I advocate for homeschool. This book is teaching morals to kids in a venue where they aren't supposed to be GETTING moral values.

That should be up to the parents. Period.

I am very much against a secular school teaching moral values to my kids. Period. I don't even care if I happen to agree with the values being taught. That's not the job of the school system.

And I SURE don't want some school teacher with whose morals I don't agree giving my kids books that grownups can't access freely on social media. I don't get the mind set that thinks this would be a good idea at any time.
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
Rated PG or even PG 13.
Recommending children 9-12, have access to this book without parental guidance is in no way beneficial to them, imo.
If parents can't give their children sex ed, age appropriate, then it's expected the world will teach them in an unwholesome way.
Wise christian parents don't leave their children in the hands of the worldly wise, to be fed worldly education... when it comes to sexual education, or morality.
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
Okay, now reconsider your comment from the perspective of all those "heathens" that Christian missionaries went out into the world to save. It was, after all, a Christian impulse in Canada to "take the Indian out of the child" when taking children by the tens of thousands away from their families and putting them in "residential schools," where their culture, their language and their beliefs were forbidden. And where they died by the hundreds, uncelebrated and forgotten.

Let me ask you a question -- was that a good thing?

Or how about the missionaries in Goa, and other parts of India? Did they respect and protect the beliefs of those they met? Was that a good thing?

Then why be upset if some of think that Christian ideas are harmful -- as they certainly were to those native children in Canada, or in India, or in so many places around the world -- want to speak out about that? Why do you resent it?

I think you misunderstood me, which is entirely my fault. It may have been my wording. What I meant is that there’s enough anti-everything written by Christians against everyone else. Christians have persecuted and destroyed societies and cultures ever since that looney tune Constantine validated and sanctioned Christianity.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Derrick Evans is a conservative activist who’s running to represent District 19 in West Virginia’s House of Delegates. The GOP primary is on May 12.

And he’s already showing us what kind of lawmaker he’d be on Facebook, where he recently ranted about the book It’s Perfectly Normal, designed to introduce children to topics involving sex. Specifically, he whines about how the book features illustrations of sex, masturbation, and a man putting on a condom.

Also, it’s not anti-gay enough.

EvansDerrickScreenshot.png
[Just to note,10 year-olds are typically in 5th grade, not 4th].

'The book tells your children to ignore religious convictions about sin. It goes into great detail about homosexuality, and goes as far to say that gay men are considered to have the highest form of love. It normalizes boy on boy and girl on girl exploring and touching each other’s bodies. The book says people who disapprove of LGBTQ lifestyles, base their opinions on fears and misinformation.

Those showing this to our children should be locked up. Once elected I will work to pass legislation that stops this from happening anywhere in West Virginia. I will always stand and Fight For Christian Values.'

He’s mad that the book says anti-LGBTQ bigotry is based on fears and misinformation, but that’s accurate. (What is religion if not both of those things?)

But even beyond his opposition to age-appropriate sex education, it’s telling that his response to kids being taught any of this is to imprison the adults. Teaching children accurate information about their bodies isn’t a crime. Evans, a Christian, is just ashamed that anyone might love their bodies instead of feeling constant shame about them.

By the way, the book even says its target audience is kids older than 10. If you’re 10 and you still don’t know these things, then you need to learn them. It’s not like your church will do it. And if Evans is elected, he plans to spend a lot of wasted time — on the taxpayers’ dime — in his futile effort to block students from learning. Education is his enemy.
source



"After having looked elsewhere about how this book has been received (One million copies in print) I came across some rather interesting comments. "

"Here’s DeplorableHousewives’s take on it:
It comes as no surprise that CSE [was] secretly pushed through the democrat-controlled House. Planned Parenthood serves as a spigot of money for democrat candidates and causes and uses our tax dollars to do so. Democrats are looking to insert perversion and promiscuity into public schools to keep funneling a never-ending supply of young vulnerable women to Planned Parenthood, thereby ensuring an infinite money stream to the democrat party."

"It's Perfectly Normal" is in fact anything but, and it includes detailed language and illustrations of homosexual acts, male and female self-pleasure, pornography and abortion, all of which are introduced in a lighthearted tone and a very positive light."

"So this is where the long trail of tears of classroom sex-ed -- condemned by Pope Pius XI in Casti Connubii back in 1930 -- finally ended up. Far from teaching children the mere biology of human reproduction, classroom sex-ed is now an Alfred Kinsey fantasyland which includes detailed instruction on sodomy and abortion for prepubescent children. It's the sort of X-rated stuff that used to land people in jail and had Kinsey himself hiding in his attic to conduct his "research".

"User Review - Flag as inappropriate
It's one thing to present factual truths concerning the human body and it's changes as one grows from a child to an adult. It's quite another to represent those who disagree with homosexuality as ignorant fearmongers who simply just don't know any better. Those of us who refute the homosexual lifestyle as 'normal' do so from biblical teachings that go back to the beginning of humanity, not from ignorance or fear. Please, if you're going to present material for the purpose of an individual making up their own mind, do so with the truth, and not the promotion of your own agendas."


"2002 - Texas - Challenged, but retained, in Montgomery County library system after the Republican Leadership Council characterized the book as "vulgar" and trying to "minimize or even negate that homosexuality is a problem".

"2008 - Maine - A Lewiston patron refused to return the book to the Lewiston and Auburn public libraries because she was "sufficiently horrified by the illustrations and sexually graphic, amoral, abnormal contents." A police investigation found the library did not violate the town ordinance against obscenity and the patron will stand trial for theft."

REVIEWS

"I bought this to see with my own eyes of what schools would be teaching our children! Not happy with the content! I as an adult was very uncomfortable with this!! This is like rated X stuff!!!"

"This is extremely inappropriate for adolescents. The illustrations are unnecessarily graphic (do we need to see naked people bending over?) I'm all for giving kids real facts and information to protect their health and to teach them to use birth control correctly, but this book is just gross. Maybe the point is to creep them out so they'll practice abstinence?"

"unfortunately I had to return the book because there are several pictures that are unnecessarily vulgar, When I read about the illustrator I learned he is not qualified to teach children about sexuality, he has no degrees related to this field, no art degree, he is not a parent, nor teacher, and not heterosexual. He is not qualified to teach most children about sex and sexuality. Also the age recommendation of 10 years is ridiculously low."

"This book is a planned parenthood endorsed piece of garbage. It’s disgusting, lacks accuracy/honesty and discusses anal, oral and vaginal sex with cartoon pictures. It also teaches about abortion. Don’t be fooled by the copies sold"

"Absolutely Horrific!!!
This is absolutely not appropriate for children. Sexualizing children & telling them how good sex feels is appalling. The images look like pronagraphy for kids. They even have a spot where it tells my 10 yr old how they can speak to a health official about birth control without my concent. Then the very next chapter is on Abortion. Are you kidding me, who thinks this is appropriate for a 10 year old. Absolutely nothing good can come from teaching children anel, vaginal, and oral sex feels good. It makes it seem like it's normal behavior for children to have sex. Even stating this is a way you can show someone you care about them."

"Holy hell. Let me start by saying I would have voted for Bernie and this book made me want to be a Republican. Do you think it's appropriate for a 10 year old to be told "changing your mind" is a fine reason for an abortion? Before going on to list several other reasons and then at #7 in your list include rape? Do you think children that age need to even know abortion exists? Or rape? Just casually mentioned as #7 in a list? It's a CHILDREN'S book - at least that's what I consider a 10 year old to be - and children need education not indoctrination. They do not need to be encouraged to look up their state laws regarding abortion. And the illustrations are creepily sexualized. Again, this is coming from a left leaning, pro-choice female. If you are looking for a book to cover regular, hair-in-funny-places topics that a boy might not like to hear from his mother, run far away. I would much rather explain masturbation and wet dreams to him myself."




So, what thinkest thou?

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Do these idiots teach their kids nonsense about storks or something? When I was a kid, books like this were readily available in the children's section of the public library and I checked them out frequently. To be honest, I probably have a higher than average level of knowledge of sexual matters and anatomy, partially in thanks to such books.

There's not much worse than an adult prude who hates themselves projecting that on young people.
 
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