Christianity: Is "Holy Spirit" with Catholicism or Protestantism or with no Christian-denomination?

[paarsurrey]

I mean, it may have been correctly compiled and in every way possible. I'm not sure whether Baha'ullah really says. Although it still leaves the question of whether the Protestant or Catholic Bible is more correctly compiled.

"it may have been correctly compiled and in every way possible"

How could one say that, please? Will one give one's rational reasons/proofs/evidences in support of one's communication, please?

Regards

 

[Terry Sampson]

But JWs say that they are the "only true Christians". If Holy Spirit was only with Catholicism and Protestantism, how could JWs deny it, please?

Those are questions that I'm going to let them answer for themselves because you deserve to get their explanation of how they can be the only true Christians and deny the Protestant and Catholic version of the Holy Spirit.

 

[MikeDwight]

So you just asked who's God with to Trinitarians, so, if God be for us, who Could be against us? etc. That's how I understand this post... Not about Holy Spiritism...?

So, generally on the subject of ecumenicality. they all play nice today but formally, its about how the Pope makes the "universality" claim, the Catholic claim, he doesn't visit 'ecumenical meetings of other churches, he has observors because he can't take part because Catholics claim the only Church still. Comparatively most Churches get along that are in a struggle with this, the other Third.

I've been interested in the Presbyterians half the time prominently feature the Holy Spirit, well it highlights how Jesus was Called in his Baptism, it highlights the holy spirit led apostle Paul through Asia Minor, today Turkey, the Holy Spirit is claimed to directly be doing works. I am not sure about the 'personality' of the Holy Spirit. If it were like the other two forms of God, personality wise?

 

[Terry Sampson]

@AT-AT
You may want to holler for help from RF Baha'i to answer paarsurrey' question: "If Bahaullah defined or identified "Holy Spirit" in a straightforward manner then please quote from Kitab-i-Iqan, the most core book of Bahaullah. Right, please?"

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

@AT-AT
You may want to holler for help from RF Baha'i to answer paarsurrey' question: "If Bahaullah defined or identified "Holy Spirit" in a straightforward manner then please quote from Kitab-i-Iqan, the most core book of Bahaullah. Right, please?"

That'd work if all my beliefs were the same as theirs. But I'm about to speak on some more subjects and express my thoughts here. If the Baha'i want to correct me along the way, it's fine.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

"it may have been correctly compiled and in every way possible"

How could one say that, please? Will one give one's rational reasons/proofs/evidences in support of one's communication, please?

Regards

I've entertained the idea of being just a straight up, vanilla Protestant Christian, in which case I might be happy thinking that the choice of Bible books is spiritually led. Upon looking for more answers because I wasn't satisfied, I found some Baha'i articles. In my current worldview, my best understanding of things, it fits for me to think that the Baha'i faith is like the continuing chronicles of Christianity. I also have this certain theory that God in his truest form might just be a huge universal energy, and that what we know of Him is mostly of His human manifestations.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

If Bahaullah defined or identified "Holy Spirit" in a straightforward manner then please quote from Kitab-i-Iqan, the most core book of Bahaullah. Right, please?

Regards

Just seems like you're asking me to do the opposite of what I suggested.

 

[paarsurrey]

I've entertained the idea of being just a straight up, vanilla Protestant Christian, in which case I might be happy thinking that the choice of Bible books is spiritually led. Upon looking for more answers because I wasn't satisfied, I found some Baha'i articles. In my current worldview, my best understanding of things, it fits for me to think that the Baha'i faith is like the continuing chronicles of Christianity. I also have this certain theory that God in his truest form might just be a huge universal energy, and that what we know of Him is mostly of His human manifestations.

"vanilla Protestant Christian"

Who are these vanilla Protestant Christian, please?
Is it a new denomination of Protestant Christian, please?

Regards

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

So for the record, my stance is the thread title can't be easily answered. To answer it one way or another leads to a flawed conclusion as the premise itself leaves too many questions.

 

[paarsurrey]

@AT-AT
You may want to holler for help from RF Baha'i to answer paarsurrey' question: "If Bahaullah defined or identified "Holy Spirit" in a straightforward manner then please quote from Kitab-i-Iqan, the most core book of Bahaullah. Right, please?"

"holler for help"

It is OK with me,I am an open mind, but the quotation should be from Kitab-i-Iqan, the Core Book of Bahaullah.

Regards

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

Basically, the Holy Spirit IS with everyone, yet established a kingdom or plays favorites with likely none of them. It is and isn't, creating a deep paradox.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

"holler for help"

It is OK with me,I am an open mind, but the quotation should be from Kitab-i-Iqan, the Core Book of Bahaullah.

Regards

Well considering you're only accepting conservative ideas (quoting from the religious texts), I'll withdraw my progressive views from this thread.

 

[paarsurrey]

So for the record, my stance is the thread title can't be easily answered. To answer it one way or another leads to a flawed conclusion as the premise itself leaves too many questions.

If Jesus has a leading role in "Pagan-Pauline-Christianity", it should not be difficult. Just quote from Jesus.
I don't think Jesus son of Mary, who both son and mother were followers of Moses and his teachings, had anything to do with the modern "Pauline-Christianity" which was founded by Paul on the mythical concepts of Paganism, please. Right, please?

Regards

 

[Terry Sampson]

"holler for help"
It is OK with me,I am an open mind, but the quotation should be from Kitab-i-Iqan, the Core Book of Bahaullah.
Regards

I understand your request to AT-AT and I see that he has had a change of intention. Just for the record, I am assuming that your curiosity and questions are genuine. If I thought you are trolling, I'd walk away (figuratively).

 

[paarsurrey]

Well considering you're only accepting conservative ideas (quoting from the religious texts), I'll withdraw my progressive views from this thread.

Rather one/you are most welcome to provide one's/your input. Quoting from a scripture is not conservative. Progressiveness must have a link with the roots, it should not be out of the thin air. Right, please?

Regards

 

[Terry Sampson]

If Jesus has a leading role in "Pagan-Pauline-Christianity", it should not be difficult. Just quote from Jesus.
I don't think Jesus son of Mary, who both son and mother were followers of Moses and his teachings, had anything to do with the modern "Pauline-Christianity" which was founded by Paul on the mythical concepts of Paganism, please. Right, please?

You're welcome to think anything about anything you please, but I feel obliged to point out that your opinion, that "Pauline-Christianity" was founded by Paul on the mythical concepts of Paganism,, is certainly NOT the traditional, accepted opinion among traditional Catholics and Protestants.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

I understand your request to AT-AT and I see that he has had a change of intention.

I did? I'm just trying to hold on here. I was going to answer that it was not with them, but I had to reevaluate that the question was an unintentional (and honest) trick question.

 

[Terry Sampson]

I did? I'm just trying to hold on here. I was going to answer that it was not with them, but I had to reevaluate that the question was an unintentional (and honest) trick question.

Sorry. I thought your words "I'll withdraw my progressive views from this thread" indicated what I called "a change of intention." If they didn't, I retract my inference that your words and mine are equivalent.

 

[paarsurrey]

I understand your request to AT-AT and I see that he has had a change of intention. Just for the record, I am assuming that your curiosity and questions are genuine. If I thought you are trolling, I'd walk away (figuratively).

I am a student of world religions, my study/research is based on "the claims and reasons from the core book of a religion to find the truth and have a comparison".
This basis was propounded by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908, the Promised Messiah and Imam Mahdi in his treatise "The Philosophy and Teaching of Islam" read in a conference of world religion.
The Philosophy of the Teachings of Islam | Islam Ahmadiyya

Regards

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

Sorry. I thought your words "I'll withdraw my progressive views from this thread" indicated what I called "a change of intention." If they didn't, I retract my inference that your words and mine are equivalent.

Sorry. I meant that if it becomes a Scripture discussion, I'll withdraw as though I know some from Baha'i articles, even I have to evaluate what the words say, and form a worldview, and I'm only going to speak on such a worldview at this time.